I don't think AB showed too much potential besides scoring. Basically he showed he can't do much else besides dribble and score. He did enough to justify his starting spot because there is no other clear cut better options after Alston left, not because he played like an elite PG. He played OK defense in playoffs but he only faced Fisher and Blake, by far the two worst PGs among other western playoff teams.
This is how i know some posters on this board don't understand guard play.There is a reason why nash played better in phoenix vs dallas and it wasnt all style either. In dallas, he had guys that didn't need him to get a shot. He had finley,dirk,jamison,walker, and whoever else dallas had at the time. He is most effective when he has play finishers vs play starters. Thats why in phoenix he had amare,marion,richardson, and diaw. he had guys that would just finish the play. Earlier this season when the offense ran through shaq, you heard nash openly complain about not controlling the ball,tempo, and team. He comes to houston, where are the play finisher's? I'm not saying nash wouldnt be a good player, i'm just saying he's not going to be the playeer you expect because of his surroundings. Not to mention he's a terrible defender and doesnt even try to guard his man.
If Nash does end up here, I think there is a good chance people will finally realize that our offensive woes have a lot to do with things beyond the PG position. Rafer was a true point and our offense still sucked balls. I'm not blaming him even though his inability to score efficiently didn't help the already bad situation. I don't think the real solution to our offensive issues are Nash, Lowry or Brooks. Nash would help a little but until we get a top end scoring wing player to replace what McGrady was supposed to give us, we'll be a notch below the true contenders. We also need to keep trying to find longer and more athletic players that know how to play the game. For all the complaining we do about our PGs, look at 2 of the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs. Their PGs are Rafer Alston and Derek Fisher. I understand there were cirumstances that may have allowed those teams to advance but all I'm saying is the best PGs in the game rarely win championships. Scoring wings are where it's at. You can get by with an average PG but it's hard to get by without an elite SG or SF.
It can easily go the other way too. People might finally realize how much a good PG can make Rockets offense so much better. Rockets never had an above average PG since Tmac is here. Every PG has had huge flaws.
Damn.... 27 pages on discussions over Nash. It's hard to see how we'll get him when the stuff coming out of Morey's mouth has already hinted that Brooks and Lowry are our PGs for the future. It's pretty telling that what we did in the post season will keep most of our players here, trading Tracy McGrady isn't really an option (for many reasons) and resigning Ron and Von are our main priorities.
offseason debate fun? lol. in the past, i usually only visited this board like once a month. today i realized it could a lot of fun.
Sure is fun... but I think it's gotten a little repetitive talking about getting big players over this whole season, especially around the trade deadline, we were actually hoping to deal T-Mac. I just don't see how Nash will end up on this team, though I guess it is nice to discuss what he brings to our team.
Thats my point. Nash needs finishers and the rox have 1 and thats landry. I'm just saying that pg's dont like guys blowing scoring chances. Once that starts to happen, they start to look you off and going another direction. As stated, the wings are the problem. The rockets have taken the most athletic, all around position and turned it backwards and expect great results. That wing guy is suppose to be a do it all type of guy that can pass,defend,shoot, and everything else in between. The rockets probably has the least athletic 2/3 starters in the league.
Our probable 2s and 3s for next season: 1. Tracy Mcgrady- can shoot, pass...no longer a good defender. 2. Ron Artest- can shoot, score inside, ok passer, good defender. 3. Shane Battier- can shoot, good passer, top notch defender. 4. Von Wafer- Can shoot and score inside. below average passer, below average defender 5. James White- Can shoot, Score inside. below average passer, below average defender. You say you need 2s and 3s that can shoot, score, defend, and pass. I think we have that when all these guys are healthy. I dont really see any deficiencies in our roster other than size off the bench. We just have to stay healthy.
The Rockets were let down by McGrady to an extent, even before his injuries. He has never been a finisher,which was the biggest problem with him because he would prefer to launch long shots and relax on defense. If McGrady were a Kobe like player who would take over when he needed along with his superior passing game,we could get by with a younger Derek Fisher at the 1. Having athletic finishers in the front court is essential for a guy like Nash to succeed. Amare let the Suns down because of his lack of dedication to defense and rebounding.Nash's inability to guard anyone also hurts them a great deal.
Kobe probably shoots more jumpers than mcgrady. mcgrady is a better passer but he doesnt get to the line as much nor does he make his FTs consistantly.
Kobe takes and makes them too,McGrady doesn't. You're right about McGrady being the better passer and not making his FT's consistently.
yeh kobe makes more. thats why he is kobe bryant. an mvp candidate every year. a 3 time champion. you'd swear the way people talk about mcgrady hes the crappiest player in the league. When you can compare him to a guy like kobe, he has to atleast be pretty good.
In what sense. They both have good size and length for a pg. They both can finish with either hand. theyre both good at drawing double teams. They both can elevate and shoot over defenders. they both have incredible range on their jumpers. Theyre comparable. Kobe is better, but tracy is comparable.
How bad would you feel if you saw Brooks become Tony Parker V2..........On another team. That would be disgusting. I'd rather hold on to the kid right now.
