But I think their offer may be battier + someone for nash rather than tmac last year contract. sun will not need tmac last year contract very much...
Defensive players usually get undeerrated. We have 2: Hayes and Battier on the team. One dimensional players usually get overrated, we also have 2: Brooks and Wafer. There is no "he can only get better" stuff. Remember Luther Head? His rookie season happened to be his best season. Once Yao comes back, AB's shooting opportunity will decrease, and he perhaps won't look as good as he is now, and his trade value can go down too. Rox didn't trade Head when his stock was relatively high, and got nothing in return eventually. Again, AB is not a can't miss PG, he's a SG in PG body. His 19 assts/22TOs in a playoff series could be the first time in NBA playoff history for a starting "PG". Lowry had 22 assists in much less minutes and only 8 TOs. To be a star players, you'd at least have two or more dimension in your game. Let's see what AB does besides scoring ability: Defense? No. Rebounding? No. Passing? No. Steal? No. Take charge? No. Court vision? No. Totally one dimensional undersized SG playing PG. Every draft will have somebody like Brooks or better than him outside of lottery picks.
No Nash please. His asking price will be too high, and lets roll with the awesome young Lowry and Brooks tandem. Those guys showed enough, especially in the post season, that they are ready to roll for the next decade.
what? some props need to go to adelman, who was able utilize ab's talent to a max or near-max in a short period of time.
If Nash's asking price is too high, that's a different story. For example, we obviously can't give up AB+Scola+Landry for him. But AB + Tmac for Nash + Cap Filler is a good deal.
Lowry played more like a PG. Too bad he shot really bad in playoffs. Without Yao, PG scoring was much needed besides play making. AB was much better at scoring.
Shaq and Yao will be redundant. close to 40 mil at that position is huge wast of money, and Shaq won't play as a backup to anybody. With both Tmac and Ron gone, our SG position will be in a hole.
He would for Yao. Playing against second units would give him a chance to inflate his stats and maybe help get a bigger contract elsewhere if he so desired. It's win/win. You give Adelman incentive to rest Yao and you at least remove the walk up and drop it in stuff from the likes of Gasol and Bynum. No thanks to Nash though.
Both Shaq and Yao are similar on defensive end, can't defend PnR. 40 mil for center position while leave no legit starting player at SG isn't a good allocation of money, I guess.
Adding Steve Nash to the lineup might look good on paper, but Nash is more of a fast break kinda of player. Yao Ming isn't a fast break player. So the Rox need to evaluate what they want. Maybe limit Yao Ming's playing time to no more than 20 mins/game. Maybe he should just come of the bench as a role player and not a starter. Yao is past his prime.
tmac + AB for nash and cap fillers???? that would be a hell load of cap fillers and giving up a decent backup young pg plus a 23mil for a 35yr old pg is little too much
I still would rather go after Amare. Brooks Battier Artest Amare Yao Anyone else i'd trade for Amare. If we can't get a backup Center he can still spell Yao...plus Adelman's strategy for Yao is like i've said earlier this season...he uses Yao as if he were Amare. Amare would solve all that fronting crap REAL quick...plus the dude will be wearing Goggles next season, how great is that? We won't have a real SG, but I like our scoring options with Brooks, Artest, and Amare on the floor. Suns could want a lot though, who knows what they want for anyone? It's not clear if they are rebuilding or if they are still thinking they have a championship core and are just trying to change that up a bit.
unless shaq retires, he's gotta realize that one day, sooner or later he's be playing from the bench. he's smart enough to know that, and being a backup for yao is the best scenario in all possible cases. if kobe wins his 4th ring this year, shaq will be motivated enough to get his 5th - just to have one more to show than kobe. 40mils concentrated at the 5 seem redundant, but it's a lot better than an idle 23mils contract in mcgrady; especially when you bring in nash altogether. i agree that the 2 position will then be an issue. but i suppose it will be a less difficult issue to solve for morey. imagine a roster of yao/shaq scolandry and hayes battier (our new sg, just sign an average but athletic 2)/white nash/lowry resign wafer or get a replacement; trade dorsey/barry/cook and find a backup for shane; and we're set to go.
First of all, Suns will not trade Steve Nash. Second of all, why would you trade Brooks or Lowry for ONE YEAR of Steve Nash? You're basically going for the whole thing next year with a move like this, and not guaranteeing it will work. Nash has never reached the Finals before despite being on high seeded teams, and there's a reason for it. He's a regular season type of player, where as a guy like T-Mac is more of a playoff type of player.
