So you are on record that Brooks will surpass Nash in 2 seasons (see your bolded part)? In 2 years Brooks still won't be one of the best 15 PG's in the league. I'm on record with that prediction.
I'm a big fan of Brooks, but I think you trade for Nash if you don't have to give up too much more. It would give the team a window of only a year - two if Nash re-signs - but that lines up with the window of the veterans on our current roster. And with the McGrady situation up in the air, Nash gives this team the best chance at a ring next season, and you just can't ignore that. However, Nash makes $13.1 million next season, so trading for him will cost the Rockets much more than just Brooks. The question is how much more and would it be worth the price?
But that's where you fail to understand. Replacing Brooks and Landry for older stars means we have no players to transition and make rebuilding easier. When the Kings had to rebuild, they had NO ONE to at least make the team say "Well this position isn't a need, so we can go get this guy." instead they are looking at 5 positions filled with crap...and none of their guys had value...so now they are STILL rebuilding from years ago Also anyone that thinks Nash isn't on the decline is FOOLING themselves. PLain and simple, look at the numbers all you want but look at the games and how many times and how hard they have micromanaged his minutes. One time dude didn't come in until a exact certain point in the game. This team is fine as it is, trading for Nash will make us less athletic and less quick, problems we have dealt with before.
ppl need to respect the fact sometimes. sorry to say this, but this is truly how i feel. after a couple of good games in the playoffs, all of the sudden ab is untradeable now? that reminds me the years we signed cato, motay, mooch and all these overpriced "fan-friendlies".
You bring up "double double" like it matters, when he was less than 3 tenths of an assist from satisfying that "imaginary line", BS criteria anyway. Not to mention he played slightly less and in a slower pace for 2/3 of the season. But he still had his 3rd best FG% ever, 4th best 3pt% ever, and best FT% ever. You didn't mention those. And missing the playoffs doesn't speak to Nash's individual game declining. That was a result of bad front office moves (Porter) and Amare missing 30 games.
as for nash declining, do the following math - 1.00 x 80% 0.50 x 100% which one is greater? also, another benefit of signing nash - it relieves yao from those technical ft's. i've always thought it's an embarrassment to our guards.
Now that I look at their future salaries, wouldn't it be best for them to include Richardson in a trade with Nash? Do they really wanna pay that guy 13.3M next year and 14.4M in 2010? Get rid of him as well and they basically have tons of cap room next summer. Oh well...all a nice dream.
Here's how I see it and i'll make it real real simple. Nash is over 30 and can only go down. YOU CAN'T DENY THAT. Father time is undefeated. Brooks is what 25 and can only go up. Now...think about where this team ended up this year without TWO of it's best players. So you have a choice of playing one year for a title or you have a choice of getting a good 4 or 5 years for a title. Tmac,Yao, and Artest still have many years left barring major injuries...well we have to see where Tmac is at. Nash can only give you so much now and younger PGs are going to tear him up.
Again, please support what you're saying with actual stats. Nash does not have to play full court transition offense. That is silly. The Suns played halfcourt offense for the first half of the year last year and he averaged 14 ppg, 10 assists, and shot 48% from the field. It is likely that Aaron Brooks will never average those types of numbers. He might, but it isn't likely. Nash is a proven NBA playmaker and one of the best shooters in the league, why would he struggle in a halfcourt offense? He showed last year that not only can he play with a big time center (Shaq), he can help improve that big time center (Shaq had his best season in several years last year). And point guards don't break down like swing men or power players do. They rely more on basketball IQ and thus last longer. Look at John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Andre Miller, etc. to name a few. Stockton got the Jazz into the Finals at 37 and 38. Jason Kidd still averages 10 assists per game. Andre Miller still averages 16 and 7. Aaron Brooks is a talented scorer but has yet to show any potential as a playmaker/assist man. He had more turnovers than assists in the Lakers series. Generally, point guards who have negative assist to turnover ratios are considered terrible. Brooks didn't get criticized for that because we weren't expected to win the series, nobody knew who he was, and he scored a lot of points on a team that lost its two leading scorers.
Of course Nash is declining. But I pose the same question to you...do you see Brooks surpassing him as a player in the next 2 years? I certainly don't. Isn't it kind of sad when a players declining numbers still dwarf basically everything your starting PG is giving you..........
I love how it isn't Nash's fault they missed the playoffs but it's Tmac's fault we've never made it past the first round... He's been their best player and franchise player, so yes fair or not it's on him.
When your starting PG is basically a rookie, what do you expect? I suppose you'd trade Nash for Russell Westbrook then also? We can't fill every position with future HOF players, the Lakers tried that and failed.
Once again... We can't blame Nash for not making it to the playoffs this season because of injuries to other players and etc etc.... But we can blame Tmac for not making it out of the first round.
How many future Hall of Famers do the Rockets have? Yao is a borderline Hall of Famer. Outside of that, we have none. Not exactly filling every position with future HOF players.
Also not only did the Lakers try that, it almost ruined their franchise if the Grizzlies hadn't come in save them. Remember Payton and Malone? They didn't get it done, Malone retired and Payton went to the Heat. Shaq had enough and the Lakers were left with Kobe, Odom and a bunch of scrubs. Kobe was on his way out of town, but that is they year Gasol came to the Lakers and Bynum had a good start to the season and the Lakers were the surprise team going into the deadline...then they got Gasol.
please stick to the thread, if you will. no one is talking about mcgrady and his playoff failures here. his name is only mentioned only because his contract is essential in the proposed trade. (and fyi, i've never thought and said the 1st round exits were all mcgrady's faults.)
