You know, I love AB and what he brings but I think I'd rather roll the dice like the Celtics did with their trades. Their trades gave them the one championship and will make them good for the next couple years but after that, who knows. I think this team with Yao, the Rockets have to all in for the next two years. Battier, Yao, Scola (and Artest) are the core of this team. All are about the same age with Yao being the player I think most likely to fall off before the others. I see Nash being a great addition to this team and if we can resign Artest and possibly pick up a decent player on a low contract like a Rasheed Wallace we could have a great team for the next couple years to contend. Aside from the Lakers, i don't think too many teams have the chance to really compete in the West except the Blazers and Nuggets. The Rockets have to win now (as we've said the last two/three years) with this core. Post 2011-2012 this will be a very different team. Roll the dice and get Nash.
again, he's basically a half-year starter. if he can make the jump like rondo did from one year to the next, which i think he can, i want to keep him. he has an extremely bright future.
Rondo has always had a great ceiling and a high basketball IQ even before Ray and KG came to Boston so that's a terrible comparison right there. Rondo was solid the year before and I knew he was going to do a good job feeding the balls off KG, Ray and Pierce. We have a better chance letting Lowry start feeding Scola, Artest and Yao then Brooks doing that. Brooks is a spark off the bench, Nash is a future hall of famer. This is our best bet. Trade Tracy and AB away
Rondo was a good passer, good defender and good rebounder even in his rookie year, when he starts for celtics. So far, AB shows nothing but some scoring ability. He doesn't have 2nd dimension or 3rd dimension to have a extremely bright future. If he does a lot other things like Battier, it's a no brainer to keep him. That's why it's a great time to trade him for an upgrade when his stock is high because of one series.
People who say Brooks value is at all time high are ignoring the fact that he is only going to get better as he gets more experience. You don't trade guys like that unless you are getting a piece that wont be gone in a year. Tracy for Nash - yes Tracy/Brooks for Nash - no Tracy/Brooks for Nash/Richardson - yes Tracy/Landry for Nash/Amare - yes Tracy/Landry for Richardson/Amare - yes Tracy for Shaq - yes Tracy/Landry for Shaq - no Adding in Dorsey, Barry and Cook on any of those deals doesnt change anything for me.
Actually at this point, Aaron Brooks is just fool's gold. People don't realize that he's such a bad passer and decision maker, because they are blinded by his scoring ability. His trade value is probably the highest his career will ever be. This guy could easily be Troy Hudson Part II. I just don't want Brooks starting, I have no problem if he wants to play off the bench and if he does a good job at it. I just don't want him starting with our scorers in the starting lineup like Yao and Scola.
really? sf3 learned real hard after jvg got here. by the time he retired, i didn't find he'd learned.
No, you wouldn't. Nash brings more to the game if he can't score. He does not suck at decision making. And mentioning dudes ages (in the case of the Celtics) really has no bearing in this argument. Those guys made that trade and knew they had like a 2-3 year window (hell, say 2...since KG got hurt this year). The same goes with the Heat trading for Shaq. Nash is 35...but he is still better at 35 than Brooks is now currently. I'm gonna assume Brooks will not surpass his level of play in the next 2 years...i.e. the window we have to win a title with our current core. You are seriously overrating how good Brooks is. Even in the series you keep touting, he had more bad games than good ones.
There is no way that the Rockets plan on having Lowry as their starting point guard. I even think it is very doubtful that they plan on having him as the backup. And really, obviously Brooks is better as a 6th man. This forum has a ridiculous level of overrating Lowry.
Nash is going to be a horrible fit with Yao. Yao has terrible hands, he will fumble most of the Nash sets him up with. He wont be able to just throw it at the rim because Yao wont be able to go and get it, Nash plays zero defense, his man blows by him on a consistent basis. Nash needs a shot blocker to erase his mistakes and if he has Yao behind him, he would only get Yao into foul trouble because Yao is not a shot blocker.
I don't know if it's a good decision. Granted he's kinda old and can't play defense. But the positive side is that Nash is virtually one of very few players in the league that can POTENTIALLY give entry passes to Yao consistently. Nash probably won't let the following happen. If he does, we can conclude that it's Yao's own issue that he can't get an entry pass consistently. And we can as well give up Yao as our franchise and rebuild. <object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/PRlKAWJj7j4&hl=zh_TW&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/PRlKAWJj7j4&hl=zh_TW&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> Having Nash in this team is the ultimate test of whether we should continue to build around Yao. If Nash+Yao work well, we will become an immediate contender in the upcoming season. If the answer is negative, we can make an earlier decision to get another franchise player instead.
I love Aaron, but he plays well every other game at this point, and his passes in the paint always get picked off.
if yao can't catch passes from nash, it's even harder for him to catch those low bounce passes at his shin level from brooks. and how's yao not a decent shot blocker? there ain't many players better than him.
did i say he was better than nash? look man, what he can do offensively with his quickness can cause most defense to change their gameplans. there's not a lot of quick guards in this league. people just brought up the laker series, but brooks wreaked havoc in the portland series too and nate started to put more attention on brooks. again, yes nash is better than brooks currently. but i still disagree with you on the age thing. we can trade tracy + one of our other players for another decent playmaker/scorer + backup C and fill more holes on this team. aaron brooks will improve more next yr.
Yes, Sir. That's exactly why I have a hard time dealing with him starting on this team. Kyle Lowry has been very consistent ever since he's been on the Houston Rockets. I hope if both of these PGs are here to stay then I hope Lowry is willing to start and not Aaron. Aaron is just too inconsistent, and he needs more freedom to dominate the game. Decision maker? Possibly, but most people who get better at it have high basketball IQ, and Brooks does not have that. Passer? Possibly as well, just unlikely. All said and done, Allen Iverson and Steve Francis have both failed at being better at those areas and it's not like Brooks has a higher basketball IQ then either of them, well maybe Francis. All said and done, this guy is going to be a scorer and nothing else in the league. By the time, he reaches his 30s he'll just be playing for his ability to shoot the basketball and that's it.
No no no no...NO...NO NO Nash is on the decline, he's over 30 and can barely play a full game anymore. The suns have a great training staff, they are able to keep guys like Nash, Hill, and Shaq going. Nash can barely play full games now, he needs a backup PG first and he has taken many games off to rest his body. Brooks is on the incline and he had improved our team...why roll the dice on this? Why mess up a sure thing? The sure thing is This team without Yao and Tmac did great, full of young guys who can get better with experience...and Brooks WILL get better, this past season was his first so naturally he's going to get better. Plus Brooks can play a full game. Nash is a good player but we have enough of old guys at or over 30 who can't play the full season anymore.
Prior to the Rafer trade, I'd have swapped anything but Yao for Nash. After watching Brooks start... I'm not so sure. I think AB may be a top tier PG down the road and I'm not sure I want to give him up for a diminishing Nash PLUS whatever else we'd have to through in. Now AB + Tmac for Nash + JRich or something like that... thats got possibilities... I'd just want to get SOMETHING a little more long term than 34 yr old Nash's 1 year contract.
