He should be able to score more, but he is a reluctant player on the offensive end,partly because he doesn't have enough confidence in his abilities. His main weakness is having below average handles, and his cutting to the basket can't compensate for it because of his limited post up skills even for an SF plus his lack of athleticism.
The grizzlies thought battier was expendable too. LOL! If yall want to trade battier which I doubt yall will have a few team interested in cherry picking him.
I don't think that is it. It is not lack of confidence, or lack of athleticism or lack of anything. It is straight up Battier knowing there are better options on the floor and he is trying to play his role. He could use a little more selfishness in his game. DD
Everyone is tradable in this league except for Kobe,Lebron,Wade,Howard. I don't want to move Battier because we are not likely to be offered better players for him.
not necessarily, he could be part of a big trade involving one of their other terrible contracts. I think something involving Jackson and one of their other big money wing players (maggette or crawford) for Shane, Cook, Barry, and Brooks might work. We would get our playmaker and they get more defense, a young PG, and most importantly cap relief.
Stephen freakin Jackson? Battier is a great defensive player, but if you guys think you can get Stephen Jackson for him you guys have really lost it. Stephen Jackson is possible one of the most underrated players in the league and he is definately the best player on GS. LOL, you guys are really only going to be able to get a high draft pick for battier, possably a lottery pick.
There are times when he can see that the other options which are better than him are struggling too. It's unfair to him to do too much, but when he gets 2's,3's.4's and 5's in a game that's not enough either. I admit he did more than well enough at home in the latter part of the regular series and in the playoffs too, but on the road he didn't do well on the offensive end at all. Unfortunately,most of the other players didn't do very well either.
I respectfully disagree with you there. Shane is a valuable player but I think GS will ask for more than that.
You contradict your own analogy. You want the Rox to dump guys and keep upgrading regardless of personal feelings and have this hunter mentality and all that. You know who has done that the past few years. The Dallas Mavericks. They traded J-Kidd, then they let Nash go, then they trade Devin Harris to get J-kidd back. They dangled Josh Howard at the deadline. They brought in Damp, flirted at the idea of bringing in Shaq. And you go bash them for having 50 win seasons but no titles. They are doing exactly what you think the Rox should do, and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it championship wise.
There was a talk couple years in the Chinese bbs that Rockets tried to move Battier. Yao was in China at that time. upon hearing that news, he immediately flew back to Houston to talk them out of it. The next day, he flew back to China. Yao always have good things to say about Battier in the Chinese press. They are also very, very close friends off the court. If the Rockets move Battier, I think it will be a big blow to Yao.
I read and finally stopped at page 6 so i might have missed quite a few things... 1. Kobe might have avg'd his usual pts but seriously we WON 3 games despite that (plus its Kobe you can't really stop him everyone knows that). Yes its a team defense but putting Ron on Kobe would have yielded much worse results IMO. 2. Your asking your defensive specialist to score? My god why? He is here to play D and hit the open 3 (just like Bruce Bowen)... People keep asking for offense but that's why we have Yao/Tmac/Brooks/Scola/Ron so are we going to take touches from them to give to Battier? We have enough scoring as is efficiency is what we need... (being healthy for a season would also help) 3. Maybe he gets paid this 8 mil or so but he does what we pay him for. Yeah we could get someone else... but IMO other than maybe Prince as some people say I would not trade him away... JR Smith really? He wont give us nothing but a cocky Wafer that can shoot where is the D...
Why would we trade our most effecient off the ball player? Even more, why would we want to trade him just to trade him? Because his value is high? The organization does nothing but worship the ground he walks on and there is a good reason for that. Battier is going to be a Rocket for a long time.
Saleem, I agree with you in that GS would want more from Houston than Battier for Jackson. I really want Stephen Jackson on this team though. I think the ideal scenario would be to send T-Mac to GS in exchange for Jackson, one of the Warriors' bigs, and a filler. That way Battier can become a 15-20 mpg player and we don't lose much in defense with Jackson and gain a whole lot more on the other end. Golden State would have to include either Biedrins (unlikely since he's young and very talented), Randolph (also unlikely due to his upside, but there is a chance), Wright (likely since he's been injury prone), and Turiaf (also likely since he's a vet and is experienced). The Rockets could get further insurance for their frontline by trading Barry for Sean Williams in NJ. This way Battier stays, the Rockets become better offensively without losing anything on the defensive end, and Houston gets taller, adds size, depth, athleticism, rebounding, and shot blocking in the frontcourt by bringing in either Turiaf or Randolph and Williams.
this is ridiculous. name me another team that could lose it's two superstars and it's only legitimate backup center and compete at te level we did??? give me a ****ing break.
i dont get why everyone seems to believe shane is holding back some crazy skills or something.....a lot of his old coaches, morey, and others have all said he's not very athletic and has trouble with offensive moves. He's money if it's just a matter of repeating a move like if it's practice, like if he pump fakes and the guy goes for it and shane takes two dribbles and stops for a J. but the key is the defender going for it. Or if he's down low and he gets a rebound and pump fakes and puts it up on the other side of the rim, but anytime you add a defender that stays in front of him he's not gonna do much, that's why most dont go for his pump fakes. The only thing he needs to do is shoot if he's open, and ocassionally cut backdoor, or around the FT, where he can possibly get an open layup or shot, but he shouldn't be going up against a set defense.
If it definitely improved the team then I would go for a "sell high" mentality with Battier. They would be foolish not to imo
remember that kobe shot few FT this series, which lowers his true shooting percentage. battier is a great defender, leader, and a great set shooter. i agree that he should be more confident in his role in the offense, but imagine if the lakers lost kobe and pau and then trevor ariza had to score more. even if he was capable of it, it wouldn't be something that he was used to or comfortable with. we lost yao in the middle of a series and the fact that shane didn't shoot some shots that i thought were good doesn't that much. he clearly exceeds his contract.
