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[Movie] Star Trek (2009)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Chuck 4, May 7, 2009.

  1. SamFisher

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    Decent but I don't know if all the hype was justified. IMO the last 30 min kind of dragged for me. Plus time travel stuff just bugs me for wahtever reason.
     
  2. JunkyardDwg

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    Umm, no.

    Old Spock clearly says that him and Nero went back in time. When Nero reappeared, the first contact he made was with the Kelvin, and he promptly destroyed the ship. That singular act thereby altered events and created a new, alternate timeline. Think Back to the Future here. Time travel was the catalyst for the alternate reality.

    Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just because the movie has created a new timeline, doesn't mean events from the past shows and films don't exist anymore. And at least we see the very real consequences of time travel in this film, unlike others.
     
  3. WhoMikeJames

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    Tyler Perry, LOL.
     
  4. Invisible Fan

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    Man, nobody cares that Vulcan is gone?

    Wouldn't that mean no red matter to save the universe in the far far future?
     
  5. Jeremiah

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    Just read the prequel comic. Very informative stuff- explains Nero's bad ass ship, which was my biggest question, among other things. Worth a read if you liked the movie.
     
  6. oinba

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    I don't think it a good movie :eek:

    I love movie from Hong.kong.
     
  7. Nero

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    Needed much more kung fu.
     
  8. BetterThanI

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    Nope. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

    Basically, the idea is that Nero and Spock jumped from one quantum state to another, making an alternate reality. Both realities exist simultaneously.

    My biggest complaint with the movie is that they never explained what the heck "red matter" is. I realize it's a MacGuffin, but they could at least create a pseudo-explanation.
     
  9. rrj_gamz

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    I never say any of the old shows or movies and after watching the movie, I didn't have to...it would have been nice to know some background but for the most part it wasn't necessary...

    I liked this movie alot...I really did...
     
  10. Jeremiah

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    Red Matter in a nutshell, from my prequel comic reading:
    It's refined from a rare element that is found within Romulan space. The kicker was that only the Vulcans had the technology to refine it.

    This all ties in to how Nero got involved. Nero, a captain of a mining ship, was the only Romulan who believed Spock when he told the Romulan council that the supernova was a threat to Romulus. He narrowly escapes getting roasted by the nova which makes him a believer. Spock and Nero make a plot to go out and secretly mine the element needed to make the Red Matter since Nero knows where to find it.

    Hope that helps. :D
     
  11. GRENDEL

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    Just to add to what some have already said, if you really liked the movie read the prequel comic, fleshes out a few things plus give the entire thing a nice little connection to ST:TNG post Nemisis.
     
  12. BigBenito

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    woah, I'd never had someone use the term macguffin on me before (beyond my screenwriting professor)

    prof used this line (same one as the wiki article)

    "It might be a Scottish name, taken from a story about two men in a train. One man says, 'What's that package up there in the baggage rack?' And the other answers, 'Oh that's a McGuffin.' The first one asks, 'What's a McGuffin?' 'Well,' the other man says, 'It's an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands.' The first man says, 'But there are no lions in the Scottish Highlands,' and the other one answers 'Well, then that's no McGuffin!' So you see, a McGuffin is nothing at all."

    which is a surprisingly funny story, when told with the right emphasis.

    keep spreading it! (spread exposition next)
     
  13. Supermac34

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    The time travel stuff doesn't really bother me because it was just a tool to be able to re-imagine the universe.

    I actually really enjoyed this film. I like the casting and the characters. There was enough classic star wars things to keep fan boys happy, but it was new enough to keep mass audiences happy.

    I also enjoyed the fact that the technology was stepped back from what a lot of the Star Trek tech had gotten to. I like the fact it takes 10-15 seconds to transport someone and transporters are so magically perfect like they are in later Star Trek movies/TV shows.
     
  14. VesceySux

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    Star Trek: The Voyage Home
    Star Trek: Generations
    Star Trek: First Contact
    Star Trek (2009)

    4/11 (36%) of all Star Trek movies to date have time travel as part of the plot. Deal with it.
     
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    Generations wasn't time travel.
     
  17. VesceySux

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    So the CLIMAX OF THE MOVIE where
    Picard and Kirk were able to alter the course of history by jumping from the Nexus to a point in time before Soren destroyed the entire star system... isn't time travel?
    Riiiiiight.
     
  18. Luckyazn

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    [​IMG]


    Set your faces to stunned, and behold the trailers from the Star Trek prequel, in which Winona Ryder plays Spock's mother.



    wow didnt know until tonite.
     
  19. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Great movie but didn't understand why the need to portray the Romulans as Arabs/Nazi and the Vulcans as Jewish.
     
  20. droxford

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    The director, JJ Abrams, is Jewish.
     
     

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