I love Ron Ron, and we need to resign him, we need his toughness and everything. he is very important for our team.
There are times when I really love Ron and he is my favourite player and there are times when I can't stand with him and I wish he wasn't on Rockets' roster.
I never talk about the subject because it's the usual stupid crap only you come up with. I was just giving props to King1 for pwning you in your own thread. But keep thinking that, cause you're such a "badass mofo". Keep responding to me, you're to easy.
hahaha if that was pwning me (pwning = geek term) then you are: keeping thinking you contribute to clutchfans or society in general i shine like a star you shine.. my shoes
I could drop classless insults on you, but I'm not going to. I prefer not to get banned. you're obviously trolling on this thread too.
i know this makes your day cause you got nothing better to do on clutchfans. make sure you have some tissue dude cause i know you are excited. do you even follow the Rockets? I doubt you do.
ok back on topic, where people who actually have something to say that's positive about Ron. Look I agree with you, you get the good and the bad. The overall accomplishments and transformation of the team's attitude is worth it. Also think about why he was brought here. He wasn't brought here to be JR Smith. He was thrown into the scorer's role. Once our team is healthy and we get another scoring option, Ron will adjust just fine. Remember when Barkley came here, he sacrificed alot of his scoring for rebounding.
He was brought in to be a scorer. That's the whole point. His defense was obviously a key as well, but this team needed another legit scoring option. More importantly, a dependable one. We watched as this team used Rafer Alston and Mike James to try and fill that void. It didn't work. With Artest, he was a proven 20 ppg scorer who everyone felt was capable of assuming the lead role when we needed him. Just like Allen, Pierce and KG in Boston. Most importantly, TMac and Yao had a history of injuries. Judging from Ron's past, most felt that if one, or in this case both went down, he could come in and fill the void. He didn't do it. No matter how you look at it, whatever way you try to spin it, he just didn't get the job done. His offensive game looked like it regressed 3 years. I've been watching him play since St. Johns. I know his game quite well. Like I stated earlier, I understand why fans like Artest. He does bring toughness to this team. I think he was also an enforcer for the team. That being said, he was not much more. His poor ball handling, erratic shooting, and inability to make his teammates better hurt the team. He often got so caught up in the game that he just free lanced way too much for my liking. I also have to question the "leadership" quality you keep bringing up. I didn't see it on a consitant basis. The reality is that Ron is an MLE player right now in my opinion. Dedication to the Rockets for one year doesn't make me excuse all his faults.
I think your reaction is based solely off the Lakers series without Yao. Ron plays better with Yao like everyone does. I want to look at his role on the Rockets as a whole from day one. Leadership is not always telling players to do or that, he has led his team in effort and attitude. The Kobe incident was a great example. He stood up to Kobe and that symbolizes that the Rockets weren't going to take crap from anyone. Also in the regular season, one game Ron was not suppose to play cause he had a bad ankle, and he played and helped us to victory. I consider that leadership. Artest takes over in 2OT With McGrady out, veteran lifts Rockets past Jazz By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle Dec. 28, 2008, 1:43AM • Game statistics Ron Artest was out. The decision had been made. He was fine with it. Then he learned Saturday night that Tracy McGrady, after consecutive games making four of 18 shots, would sit out Saturday’s game against the Utah Jazz, the teams’ first meeting since last season’s playoffs. Artest warmed up. Adrenaline spiked. Hours later, with the game in a second overtime and players with hands on knees to hold up exhausted bodies, someone needed to step up. With the game to be won, Artest scored 10 points in the second overtime to drive the Rockets to a 120-115 win over the Jazz, their seventh consecutive win at Toyota Center. “I guess sometime I will take some time to rest,” said Artest, who sat out Friday’s game because of his sprained right ankle, “But sometimes, adrenaline will just be flowing. I thought it would be smart if I took this game off. But Mac didn’t play. We’re in desperate need of multiple victories. You think about the team. You think about winning and how you can help. That’s what leads to, ‘I’m playing.’ If Tracy would have been in the lineup today, I would have sat.” Instead, he took “game-time decision” literally, then became the difference. “Ron was terrific tonight,” Rockets guard Rafer Alston, said. “It showed how much we missed him the other night and how much we need him.” Letting a lead slip Until Artest took over, the Rockets’ offense had hit a wall. The Rockets had started quickly, putting up their top-scoring first quarter, 34 points, of the season. They led by as much as 16 early in the second half, and by 12 in the fourth quarter. With Jazz big men Mehmet Okur, Carlos Boozer and Paul Millsap out, Yao Ming had been scoring reliably, making seven of 12 shots for 18 points to go with 12 rebounds, through three quarters. Then Yao and the offense crashed. After Artest and Brent Barry made consecutive 3s for a 12-point fourth-quarter lead, the Rockets matched Friday’s 0-for-9 finish in New Orleans by missing their next nine shots. In the last 9:56 of regulation, the Rockets made one of 11 shots, and after Alston missed a free throw with 15.4 left, Jazz guard Deron Williams sent the game to overtime with a drive. Alston nailed a 3-pointer with 57.3 seconds left, but the Rockets made two of 10 shots in the first overtime. But this time, the Jazz missed a crucial free throw, with Ronnie Brewer missing his second attempt with 8.5 seconds left. Yao missed a jump hook, his fourth miss in five overtime attempts, sending the game to a second overtime. Yao finished with 26 points and 11 rebounds, but after the third quarter, he made just two of 11 shots. In the fourth quarter and first overtime, the Rockets made a combined five of 28 shots, prompting Rockets coach Rick Adelman to put the ball in Artest’s hands for the second overtime. In Artest’s hands On his first two possessions, Artest drew fouls, making his four free throws. On the third, he drew a double team and passed to Luis Scola for a reverse and a three-point play. With a turnaround, fadeaway jumper, and four more free throws, he gave the Rockets a nine-point lead. ” Williams had sliced through the Rockets to make four of five shots in the fourth quarter and first overtime. He was 0-for-3 in the second overtime. Artest finished with 28 points, his top-scoring game since Dec. 5, before he missed four games with the ankle sprain. He made all 11 of his free throws, including eight in the second overtime. “I was trying to get to the hole, actually,” Artest said. “Instead of trying to draw contact, I was trying to get to the hole and they just kept fouling. I kept converting the free throws. I should have been attacking all night instead of waiting for double overtime. Better late than never.” jonathan.feigen@chron.com
What the hell does that have to do with Ron's inability to maintain his composure and shoot with in the offense? I don't see how other teamates getting injured means he should hold onto the ball for 10 seconds...dribble for 8 more, then step left or right and launch a contested BRICK....or "miracle" shot.....being a miracle that he actually made it. Last I recalled, there were still 4 other guys on the floor with him. 3 of which have offensive skills.
