Why would so-called only fans propose a max for Yao?

Let Yao go and peace.

 

I don't think Yao ever considered a paycut himself. Hell if I did half of the job for the whole company, instead of a raise, my boss ask me to take 10% paycut, I'd say F-you in front of his face and leave...

 

someone like u go and peace.

 

Yao Ming is a MAX contract player, whether you like it or not. I know Daryl Morey and Les know this and I know they will do everything in their power to keep him a Houston Rocket.

Unfortunately, many people on this board have no experience managing a franchise or building a championship contender. They don't understand that all the moves that have been made and all the players that have been brought in have been made to complement Yao Ming's skills on the basketball court. They don't understand that if we let him walk, the entire make up of this team drastically changes and we would have to start back in square one.

Additionally, these same people are knee-jerkers, who don't spend a moment in rational thought before making worthless threads calling for the blow up of our team every time we lose a game or every time a player gets injured. You people need to understand that winning takes patience. YEARS of patience and faith in your players and management.

Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady are the cornerstones of this franchise and have been for many years. Finally, things are coming together and the future is bright. As I have mentioned many times before, I believe our destiny lies in the next season, when all the pieces can come together for one giant championship push. While TMac may be replaceable with a plethora of high class perimeter talent, Yao is not. Big men are and will continue to be a rarity in this league for years to come.

2010, all bets are off. If management is unable to retain Yao Ming, then expect this team to be blown up. Free agent superstars have no incentive to come to Houston if there is no franchise center. People WANT to play with the best center in the league. There's no guaranteeing that our current players would want to stay in this organization if Yao does not stay.

Whenever the irrational feel angry, please refrain from making bull***** threads and save us the headache of trying to explain to you why we need to keep our franchise center. It's not even a matter of money, because Yao Ming is going to get a MAX contract no matter where he goes. He's the BEST CENTER IN THE LEAGUE and one of the most marketable and hardest working individuals in the league. Injuries are a part of basketball, and life in general. If you have no faith in your players, then you have no faith in your team....so maybe it's time to root for somebody else.

 

MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING! let me say this once and for all; No matter what anyone thinks YAO is worth...

YAO WILL RECIEVE THE MAX!

So all these stupid threads that say otherwise or just that stupid. He will not e traded and he will not recieve less than the MAX unless there is some uniques situation that would allow us to obtain a great player in return for him taking a few dollars less.

 

I think this threadd is quite pointless.

Why Yao YOF would disguise themselves sayin yao deserves 8 million?
Morey doesn´t take advices from Clutchfans nor does Les Alexander.

Why would the Rockets pay a max contract to a player that has not been healthy and was not really successfull aside from the financial advantage Yao gaves the team?

Why would Yao think he deserves a raise if he wasn´t able to play most of the seasons from begining to end??

Why would he ignore the fact that a coach, player or manager of the Rox NEVER said anything about Yao injurieing himself or playing for China?
(you wanna look at some Spur news to see what coach and players said of Manu for playing for argentina)

Yao has reasons to take a paycut, as so should mr mcgrady, but i don´t want T-Mac here, so i don´t care, i do want Yao here, so that´s why i want him taking a paycut, not 8 millions, but something about 12-15.
But i surely don´t want Yao at ALL COST, only if he is willing to stay, and to win. And in order to achive both, he MUST take a paycut, or we will be back to the supporting casts we had 3 years ago.

Seth

 

^^^^^ 100% agree

If your moniker is any indication of your age, the adage "wisdom comes with age" is true.

 

What is your definition of YOF? Does it include the 99ers here like oldmanrox who said Yao deserves and will get a max contract? Clearly they have been fans of the Rockets since at least 1999.

 

I think a YOF is a person that cannot tolerate YAO not being the focal point on any thread in this forum.
A person that will contradict any thread, no matter what is about, that implies that anyone is better than Yao in any aspect.

 

OK but does it mean 99ers who thinks Yao deserves a max contract are YOFs? Or Calvin Murphy or Jonathan Feigen who both think Yao is a max contract guy. Are all those people YOFs? It seems like you are trying to label people names to insult them just because you have an agenda rather than debate your point. What is the point in calling people names like YOFs? Is it possible to make your argument without insults? You know people that need to resort to name calling have weak arguments. We all did that in kindergarden "you have kooties" "you smell" but I'm assuming most people here are not in grade school.

In any case as Old Man Rockets said it's a moot point. Yao will get a max contract no matter what anyone on clutch says.

 

I actually don´t use the term at all, only if it´s to make a joke as i did in a thread a mins ago, i quite don´t care those posters.
You used that term here, and in the topic, and you asked me what i think they are, not to tell, that i didn´t say that all those who wanted yao to get the max were yof, i just pointed what i considered a flaw in your argument.

I don´t think a YOF will ever write that YAO deserves 8 million, because that would be admitting he is not the superduperstar they want him to be. And they also know Morey and Alexander don´t take advises from clutchfans.

 

No player, regardless of how good they are, should be given a guaranteed contract extension if they have a long history of season ending injuries. This is not about whether the Rockets are better with our without Yao, that's an irrelevant discussion, it's about the insanity of investing a large chunk of your salary cap in a player that simply can't stay on the court. However, for business reasons, I believe that the Rockets will resign him, so it's imperative that a legitimate backup be found. In fact, it was a boneheaded mistake not to already have done this. Deke should not have been our only backup big, period.

 

Good thread. It's funny to see that some of fans here want to offer 8/9 million to keep Yao. They just have no idea what's the market for the big guy in NBA.
zydrunas ilgauskas signed 50M/5ys at age of 30. Nene signed 60M/6y after the injury season which he only played 1 game. Bynum signed 58M/4y contract when he had only average 8points and 6rebound a game. Wake up!!!

 

Should the Heat offer Wade a max contract? He has been injury prone the last 3 seasons. Wade's injury caused the Heat to miss the playoffs, get one of the worst record in the NBA, and was the cause of the Heat getting eliminated in the playoffs in the 1st round this year. Wade has also played for team USA in the Olympics, World Championships, and Olympic qualifiers

 

First of all, Rockets fans have a lot more experience with championship teams that YOF fans. We also have more experience with real franchise centers than YOF fans.

Yao is not a franchise center. He's just not good enough, it's reality.

Even if Yao were the best center in basketball, that would make him about the 7th or 8th best player in basketball. That type of player doesn't lead its team to championships unless he's surrounded with two other top 15 type players.

Yao is absolutely replaceable. It's absurd for anyone to say otherwise. If we could trade Yao for a serviceable starting center 12pts/8reb player and a 15 pts/game perimeter player we would be legit championship contenders.

This thing about how people WANT to play with Yao. Name one player that will be a free agent that wants to play with Yao. Please, name one player. Does Chris Paul want to come play with Yao?

And saying there's "no guaranteeing that our current players would want to stay in this organization if Yao does not stay" is about the crazyest thing ever. Who's going to walk on the Rockets if Yao gets traded?

Rockets fans were here before Yao and we'll be here after Yao unlike the YOF's.

 

Wade won them an NBA Championship and he's arguably a top 3 player in the league. I'm going McEnroe with your question... you cannot be serious!!

 

Yeah but is he injury prone the last 3 years? Has the Heat miss the playoff after Wade became injury prone? Did they get one of the worts records in the NBA? You pay people for what they will do in the future not what they did in the pass. Otherwise we would have signed Dikembe for 15 million instead of the vet min this season.

I say Wade is definitely a max contract guy as well as Yao in 2010

 

even if another team offered him more, yao would still want to stay a rocket.

 

In a nutshell............