Rockets dealt a setback in hopes of drafting Chinese star

this should be a slap in the face wake up call for whoever wants yao ming!

NO to yao ming, down with communist, screw shanghai sharks!

we wang odem!!!

 

Excellent!! Good news. Keep it coming!!

 

This is the best news. Every pick, whether its Shaq, Duncan, or Sam Bowie, has it's question marks. In regards to Ming, in addition to the basketball ?'s there will always (even if his govt signs some worthless agreement) the possibility of outside forces affecting his development/contribution to the Rockets.

 

arrr... Mr MING?

I think you meant Mr Yao.

 

It's time to trade that pick to the warriors and pick up butler at #3. But this news didn't change my view on ming anyway, i always wanted to trade the pick.

 

What China is worried about is that Houston will ship Ming to some loser team like Memphis. They want guarantes it won't happen.

In an alternate universe, Shaq is going to Russia, the Lakers want to know he doesn't get traded to the Siberia Absoluts.

 

The soap opera continues. Who knows what's going to come of this. Hopefully after the Rockets talk to the Sharks, the trip will still be a go, and things will work out.

 

This is hardly a setback. It seems to me that part of the Rockets bargaining power with Ming and, most importantly, Chinese basketball is that Ming will be selected first. It just sounds like this is a bit posturing before the negotiations.

Settle down Yao haters...

 

Sure, we promise to never trade Ming as long as they promise not to tell him to leave as a free agent in 5 years.

 

This is like trying to do business w/ a 6yr old.

 

We shouldn't have to assure them of anything we do. Man, I was worried this would happen. If we take Ming, he's ours when he is here and whatever we do with him is our business. But I guess we can't convince the Chinese the we have that kind of FREEDOM. You never know what will happen, so I can't imagine the Rockets would sign anything saying that they can't trade Ming ever. I know baseball players can have no trade clauses or a list of teams they can or can't be traded to, but I doubt that exists in basketball. I bet they're trying to rattle us into trading the pick to a bigger market team. Man, I never thought I would be talking about conspiracy theories.

 

I don't like this "don't bother coming" vibe.

China has put us in a bad spot- It seems the Rockets were hoping to announce Ming as their pick a couple weeks before the draft, and now China says they don't really have much to discuss unless the Rockets declare Ming as their pick before getting to know if he'll be available for all the preseason activities, much less regular/postseason?

With Jay Williams scheduled for a workout a week before the draft, I guess this means our decision is coming down to the wire.

I don't see how this is good no matter how you slice it.

 

Of course its posturing.


The last thing the Chinese government wants is for Ming to be stuck with a bad franchise like Golden State, or a bad franchise in the middle of nowhere like Memphis.

They want to make Yao look as good as possible. They are not going to set him up to fail. Putting Yao on a 15-67 team would make China lose face. Pride is just as important as money to the Chinese government.


For all you Yao haters, this is no different than Kobe not wanting to play for Charlotte or Steve not wanting to play for Vancouver or Steve Young not wanting to play for Tampa Bay or John Elway not playing for Baltimore, blah blah blah......

 

A coupla more things to consider before drafting Yao Ming:

*Yao Ming and Team China lost at home to New Zealand the other day. (Tall Blacks over the High Yellows)

*Wang Zhizhi has gone missing - check out the Dallas Morning News Mavs section - which could have Yao value/draft position implications depending on how harshly the Chinese deal with their maverick Wang.

 

When did this Kobe not wanting to play for Charlotte thing get started? I believe the Hornets really felt that they didn't need a 2 guard, especially a project that they viewed Kobe as being, so they traded him for a Center, a position they did needed to fill. I know the Lakers had they're eye on Kobe and we're looking for a way to get him. People came down hard on Kobe for entering the draft straight from high school. I doubt that a 17 year old had the kind of leverage to demand a trade.

 

Riet, this is a little different. Rockets seemed ready to commit to Ming 100%, if China agreed to their terms. Since it appears China had no plans sending Ming to Houston (before the Draft), the Rockets continued showing their commitment to ming, by planning a trip to China. They never said they were going to trade the pick, they wanted to announce Ming as their #1 pick before the draft (like the Texans did), so China knew how serious the Rockets were.

Question? Are they wanting guarantees that the Rockets will never trade Ming during his Rookie contract. Another words, if Ming does suck (for whatever reason) and the Rockets want to move him, then they are not allowed to without Chinas approval?

This all boils down to that stupid manger of the Sharks. He was the one bad mouthing the Rockets to that chicago paper, and he is the one playing mind games.

This is like a soap opera!

 

I really hope, for your sake, that some of you never become lawyers, agents, brokers, negotiators, or even businessmen.

If you're going to overact anytime you're met with a counter proposal or posturing, you will surely fail.

Does the term SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY mean anything?

If you're going to be disappointed, be disappointed in the Rockets. Consider this, it sounds as if the representatives they've been dealing with were never sactioned or authorized by the Sharks or CBA. Its just like me negotiating for Shaq, I don't have the authority to do so, so why talk to me?

Not a good message to send a team when you're supposedly interested in their star player.

Another way of looking at it, you're trying to sell a car, and you advertise it in the paper. Naturally, you start receiving calls from people interested in buying. But do you really want anyone and everyone coming to your home, or just those who are really interested in buying the car?

Think about it.

 

So I guess China is just a another version of David Falk eh? They're both a bunch of power hungry maniacs who micromanages the situation too much...

 

There were a handful of teams wanting to draft Kobe. Kobe's daddy and agent worked it so that every team knew Kobe would ONLY play for the Lakers and would just go play in Europe if some team other than the Lakers tried to sign him. Charlotte only drafted Kobe in a pre-arranged deal to trade him for Vlade. They never had a chance in hell of getting him to actually play for them.