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Rockets will be lucky if yao choose to stay

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by haoafu, May 12, 2009.

  1. Marcus Bryant

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    Our spot 5 would become a black hole if yao left, however much you hate him you have to admit he is a player that produces 20pts plus 10 rebounds every night. The only defect with that guy is just his inconsistency, it has already been 3 consecutive seasons in which yao each missed 20 games at least.

    All in all, Yao is worth a contract worth 8-9m/yr at most, obviously the 15m/yr contract seems a little bit outrageous. 9m/yr is the highest prize I can accept regardless of the aspects off the court, perhaps Yao's basketball value is not half as much as the value of international market.
     
  2. RocketsPimp

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    If you are going to spout off at the mouth, at least be accurate. This is the exact same injury he had last year. He has had leg and foot problems for most of his career and is likely to have more of them.

    Unfortunately he will probably get another max contract, which is not a good thing competitively for the Rockets because it ties up a large chunk of salary cap to big man that will be on the wrong side of 30 very soon and has played more than 57 games only once in the last 4 years. I completely understand Yao's business value, but this game is not solely business. I would hate to see this team hamstrung by another max, long term contract with an aging and oft injured vet.
     
  3. Drexlerfan22

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    Uhhhh.... riiiiight.

    Yao had no reason to leave the 2nd half of game 2 unless

    1. Either team had an insurmountable lead (it was tied at half), or
    2. He was already injured.

    Soooo... what's your point exactly?

    Oh, right. You don't have one.
     
  4. kaocsaephan

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    I'll support Yao wherever he goes. He's a great guy. If some Rockets fans don't want Yao (they think they are the ones who get to call the shot), Yao won't be crying under his blanket, hungry for food. I'm sure Yao can contribute to teams like New York and LA, and he'll probably have more success.

    Some Rockets fans just feel entitled to stars. But but but max can bring in another star omgx!! Yeah, well, there aren't 30 LeBron's and Wades to go around.

    But fans aren't the ones signing the contract. And if you don't like it, just don't go to the game or buy Rockets merchandise. Les will be without food on his table :rolleyes: Some people feel more important than they really are
     
  5. real_egal

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    Oh please, as if you have any idea or power to manage that kind of money. Some of the posters here, I don't know whether they are fans of anything close to basketball or Rockets, because they are certainly uber delusional, who have no idea of the market/basketball/players. 9 million? Yeah right. Andris Biedrins is making 9 millions now. Go to Warriors board to offer Yao straight for Biedrins to see their reaction. And you can fantasize about building around Biedrins. Monta Ellis is making 11 million a year. Mike Dunleavy makes 9 million, and will be making 11 million in 2 years. Frigging Radoslav Nesterovic makes 8.4 million this year.

    Thank God, the Rockets team isn't run by "fans".
     
  6. DaDakota

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    What?

    This is not the same injury at all...same foot, different injury.

    DD
     
  7. smoothie

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    this is exactly how i feel.

    bad investment for the rockets if they want to win. if les only cares about money then he will keep yao. yao won't be any better than tmac once the injuries start catching up with him, he will regress as a player very fast. his speed/movement is already a liability, what about after 30 with a bunch of foot and leg injuries?

    i think the best ending is for yao and the rockets to agree to a trade in the summer of 2010. another team can extend yao's max, the rockets can get something in return for him leaving. neither yao nor tmac should be on the rockets after 2010. however, i doubt les will EVER want to part ways with yao.
     
  8. heyangw

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    What a smart ass!
    It seems for you Rockets is the only NBA team.
    You can try to offer Yao 9M/year when renewing contract. You will see what will happen.
    Be realistic and show some respect to your fanchise player.

     
  9. absent2007

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    is that coming out from your ASS?
     
  10. kanariya

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    The only reason that Yao would stay in Houston for less than 10m/yr would be his loyalty to the team and the relationship with teammates/coach.

    If he would drop his salary to under 10m/yr with a team, then it would be a team that has really good chance to win a championship.

    Honestly why would Yao lower his salary to stay with a team that's not a championship caliber team?
    Why would him stay in a team with the media and fans don't want him anymore?

    You know there's gotta be a good reason for him to turn down the contract extension twice.


    If steve francis, ben wallace, mike bibby and zach randolph can get 14m+/yr, why does Yao only deserve 10m?
     
  11. LabMouse

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    What? the best ending is a trade? The best ending is to sign Yao with a non-max contract. I do not how it works, but Yao would do it if he can. He said his parents already retired at 30, with too many injures, I do not think he is planning to play another 6-7 years, if he can not, I do not think he just wants to collect the pay checks without playing the games, he can make money in other ways.


     
  12. Big MAK

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    You're dumb. I dont know who would be willing to give him max contract, seeing as how he cant ever finish a season anymore.
     
  13. bigjj

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    It's time to leave, big man!
     
  14. kanariya

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    I'm sure more than 1 team will offer him a max contract.
     
  15. real_egal

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    It's comical how some people tirelessly try to diminish Yao's value in every thread, like that's going to impact the market. They try to claim that Yao only gets signed for the oversea market instead of basketball. Just like some random posters on Yahoo! stock forums to bash or pump some stocks, as if they can move the market. I have advise for those people. Midgets are faster, cheaper, can't be fronted, go find five 6-footers to play ball.

    It's about supply and demand, not your perceived "value". Big men are paid more than smaller ones, with similar or even better skill sets, not because they all can bring you oversea money, but because they are rare and they are important for BASKETBALL.

    Frigging Radoslav Nesterovic makes 8.4 million this year. We are arguing whether a 7 time all-star, 19/9, 7'6 center who can make free throws "deserves" 10 mil or more, on this board, every single day. Some are acting as if it's their money, talking about "max" as if it's the MVP title. There are 30 teams, and each team can afford 2 max. That's easily 40-50 big contracts around the league. We are trying to make that 15 mil as if it's HOF honor.
     
  16. professorjay

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    Ugh, this thread is still here.

    The Rockets will do what's best for the ROCKETS.

    You cannot tell me Yao is untradeable or he is an automatic max contract. Unless your name is Lebron, Kobe, or Wade, you are an option to be moved.

    Yao will do what's best for YAO.

    If he can get a better contract elsewhere and/or land on a team that seems poised for a run on NBA Finals for the next few years, he will definitely consider it.

    Some of you act like it's a personal grudge against Yao. This is a sports franchise. This is a business. There's making money (a factor that would keep Yao here...which is not a compliment to him as a basketball player), and there's winning. Many other players have been traded or released in the past. Most of you weren't complaining then. If you're so upset that ROCKETS fans are discussing what's best for the ROCKETS, then you should go to a Yao Ming message board where people are discussing what's best for YAO.
     
  17. real_egal

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    Your "contribution" kept this thread alive. As if you claim you are discussing in the interest of Rockets, you are actually doing it, or your random idea against players or other fans should be law.

    People want to keep Yao doesn't mean they want the worst for the team, on the contrary, they want the best of the team. It's funny how you claimed that Yao fans started to discuss whether Yao should be re-signed after he's down, because they only care about Yao. But you are perfectly happy to join the daily discussion whether Rockets should keep Yao about the same topic, during regular season , playoff round 1, and 3 games in round 2, where Yao wasn't hurt yet.

    According to your logic, NBA should only consists of 3 teams to have LeBron, Kobe, and Wade on. People are never upset Rockets fans talking about Rockets. But REAL Rockets fans are upset that fake fans knowing nothing about the market to talk about market value and basketball value, trying so hard to diminish our players, in the name of Rockets.

    Waiving that "team" flag or shouting out "team" slogan doesn't excuse idiocy.

    You like it or not, team owners will give out max contracts to players not named LeBron, Kobe, or Wade. One can feel free to cut everything in half of market price during bargain, but he will end up with nothing. Of course, you can still spin it as if it's in the interest of the "team" - without any player.

    If the market is over-valued, big men are overpaid more. Put "Rockets" on your forehead doesn't help you escape that simple market rule.
     
  18. roxstarz

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    This thread delivers.
     
  19. JSUB11

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    Are you frggin INSANE? You can't really believe that crap your spewing...can you? 29 other teams in the league would die to have Yao Ming on their rosters. They would offer him 2 max deals if they could. You're talking about the most dominant center in the league and marketing gold right there. A great teammate, a great human being, who works for every penny he earns.
     
  20. seaweed

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    Rockets need Yao. That's all.
     

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