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Game 4 is why the Rockets did not invest in a backup C

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, May 11, 2009.

  1. michecon

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    No doubt, when Artest does that, we are not good. But if you notice, it's not just Artest who was turning it over. When he got into that mode, we were already down double digits. The reason Ron was trying too hard is because we could generate nothing inside, while being killed inside. Kobe even got some rare layups. So, yes, your observation is valid, but it's not a support of this thread.
     
  2. Rockets Jones

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    Add: Rockets are worst in shot blocking, that needs to change.
     
  3. michecon

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    What do you want me to say? GMs don't usually tell the truth? Or Morey got it wrong? Well, pick one.
     
  4. Uprising

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    Yep, he got too confident and thought he was TMAC again. (ofcourse the old and healthy one.)
     
  5. krockets

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    If Game 4 proves anything, Game 5 pretty much shot it down...
     
  6. durvasa

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    Did you miss the Portland series? We won a round, without a backup C, for the first time in 12 years. The reasons the Rockets felt that group would be sufficient for backup duties was exhibited in game 4, and in our advancing past the first round. But, realistically, not having a single 7-footer is of course not sustainable. It could work for 20 minutes a game, which is what we'd be looking for to keep Yao's minutes down to the 25-30 minute range, but probably not for 48 minutes against a team like the Lakers.
     
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    I just don't think this game should be evidence for why we do or don't have to have a backup center. I think priority number one should be a backup C this offseason, but to be honest, this game isn't really a good indicator of that. We were playing good team ball without a 7-footer, fighting size with speed and ball distribution. It's not really our lack of size that killed us, just how we shifted away from that.
     
  8. code_red

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    LOL. What about game 5?


    The TNT commentators just said, "Andrew Bynum and Paul Gasol are playing Volleyball amongst themselves."
     
  9. saleem

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    We BARELY got away in Game 3 and 4 against a inexperienced Portland team. If Game 4 was the reason why the Rockets did not invest in a backup C,then I hope they will learn from it. I believe you were implying that we had enough front court depth even in the absence of Yao and Deke,even though you did admit not having Birdman hurt us,otherwise you wouldn't have brought up this topic.
     
  10. tofu--

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    Game 5 is why the Rockets SHOULD invest in a backup C.
     
  11. code_red

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    Did you not hear the commentator:

    "Andrew Bynum and Paul Gasol are playing Volleyball amongst themselves."


    What part of that don't you get?
     
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    The part where the Rockets have 11 offensive rebounds to the Lakers and their 9.

    Only reason why Lakers are winning the battle on the glass is because we're friggin chucking them like mad. Yes, that leads to more offensive rebounds but it also leads to a hell of a lot more defensive rebounds. I'd argue that with Hayes on the court, we're winning the rebound war.

    Just sayin.
     
  13. code_red

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    Maybe you're missing the point that the Lakers are out rebounding us 33 to 26 so far.

    FAIL
     
  14. michecon

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    You don't need to agree with it. Phil Jackson understands it, you can tell the way game is going right from the first couple of positions.

    Oh, and we get offensive reb by working extremely hard. They got there rebounds by just standing under the rim.
     
  15. Northside Storm

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    Maybe you're missing the reading comprehension to see that I addressed that in my post.

    Eh.
     
  16. Cannonball

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    Defensive rebounds are easier to get than offensive rebounds. We've missed a lot of shots. Lots of opportunities for LA to get defensive rebounds. Lakers haven't missed many shots, not a lot of opportunities for us to get defensive rebounds.
     
  17. code_red

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    LOL, everybody in the whole world sees it. Phil Jackson sees it. Both TNT commentators see it. And Kenny Smith sees it.

    Unfortunately, a few homers in this thread don't see it, because all they can think of is game 4, game 4, game 4, LOL.
     
  18. durvasa

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    No, that's not what I meant, though I understand why so many people took it like that. In fact, when I created the thread, my intention wasn't even to argue one way or the other (that's why I started it with "I'm not saying [investing in a backup C] shouldn't be a priority going forward"). I was just trying to highlight the benefits of playing small behind Yao, and I think game 4 showed that. And then, open up the thread for a discussion on how much priority we should place on a backup C. If the Rockets can figure out how to play at a high level when going small, and they can do so for maybe 20 minute a game, might it make more sense to focus on other areas of concern?

    To me, the biggest weakness of this team isn't paint defense or defensive rebounding. We're actually pretty good in those areas, even without the benefit of multiple 7-footers on our squad. Our biggest weakness is offense. If we need to put off acquiring a backup C in favor of adding more scorers, that could be a worthwhile tradeoff. That's where I hoped the discussion in this thread would lead. Instead, I found myself having to defend the notion that size isn't important in the NBA. But in basketball, everything is important to varying degrees. All else being equal, of course you want size. And in extreme situations where you're facing an unusually big, lengthy team like the Lakers without Yao available, size becomes an even bigger deal.
     
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    The way the game started had the Rockets right on top. I'm not saying lack of size is a good thing and I think it's a significant factor in the massacre right now...just don't think this is a good game to use that to attack this thread because personally, the lack of ball movement and penetration is what REALLY killed it for the Rockets.
     
  20. deeperblue

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    How smart you were making this thread!
    Look at game 5.

    So smart you are.


     

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