http://gravityandlevity.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/yao-ming-and-the-froghopper/ (From TrueHoop) Quote ------------------------------------ A blog about the big ideas in physics, plus a few other things Yao Ming and the froghopper 2009 May 12 tags: basketball analytics, froghopper, scaling, Yao Ming by gravityandlevity Just a few days after a tough and inspiring performance against the Lakers, Yao Ming is injured again, with a stress fracture in his foot. Lakers coach Phil Jackson commented on Yao’s fragility by saying “A person in physics once told me if man was 60 feet tall, the first step he’d take, he’d completely crumble … Gravity’s a b****.” But is it true? Certainly larger people have heavier bodies, but they also have thicker bones and larger muscles. So why are tall people more prone to injury? This post examines that question using one of the simplest and most powerful ideas in physics: the scaling argument. I will also try to make a prediction for the “injury prone-ness” of a person as a function of their height. Before I get to Yao Ming, allow me to discuss a simple example using what is arguably the best athlete in the animal kingdom: the froghopper. The froghopper is a little insect, barely half a centimeter long, but it has about a 27″ vertical jump. That’s about 140 times its own body length, so in a certain sense it would be like me jumping 840 vertical feet. Pretty impressive. But if we put the froghopper in an enlarging ray, and blew it up 365 times so that it was the same size as me, would it really be able to jump 840 feet? The answer is no. That’s because an object’s weight is proportional to its body volume, which is proportional to the cube of its size. So making the froghopper 365 times larger would make it 365^3 = 48.6 million times heavier. The froghopper’s ability to jump depends on the volume of its muscles, which also increase by 365^3 times after it gets put through the enlarging ray. So the ability of the froghopper to jump remains the same: it gets a lot stronger, but also proportionally heavier. Therefore, a 6-foot froghopper could jump the same height as a half-centimer froghopper: 27 inches. It just looks much less impressive. Now let’s think about Yao Ming, who is sort of like a normal person put through an enlarging ray. The propensity for one of Yao’s bones to fracture depends on the stress he puts on them. Stress can be defined as weight divided by cross-sectional area. So if weight depends on volume (size^3) and the cross-sectional area of his poor foot bones depends on size^2, then the stress grows as (volume / area) = (size^3 / size^2), or in other words, the stress increases directly with size. You can think of it this way: by virtue of his great height, Yao’s bones are about 1.7 times thicker than the average person’s, but he weighs about 2.2 times more. Thus, his bones have a harder time than yours do. So how much more likely is he to get injured than the average man (height 5′8″ )? Well, there are people out there who break bones for a living and have addressed this very question. They found that the frequency of stress fracture in bone grows as the stress it is under to the power 0.06. Putting together their conclusions, along with the observation that Yao gets some kind of stress fracture every year or so, we can estimate how many years it would take for athletes of various heights to come down with a stress fracture: Spoiler Of course, this chart is just a general prediction and is not meant to be completely accurate. Some people will be hardier than others, and those people tend to be athletes (no stress fractures yet for a 7′1″ Shaquille O’Neal). But the shape is important. It suggests that if you’re under 6 feet tall (hooray, most of the world!) there is really not much risk of a stress fracture. You can have a 20-year career as an athlete without too much worry. But for those above 7 feet tall, your chance of a fracture is about 10 times greater than for your 6-foot brethren. So finally, was Phil Jackson right about the collapse of a 60 foot man? Actually, by my estimate, he was quite conservative. As far as I can tell, a 16′3″ man would fracture his tibia the first time he took a step. There is a sad and interesting footnote to this story. The depressing far-right side of the graph above corresponds to the 8′11″ Robert Wadlow, the tallest man in recorded history who suffered from an overactive pituitary gland. By his late teens he was already incapable of walking without leg braces, and he continued to grow until his death at age 22.
Poor Yao Not only does he have to battle other big man in the post but he has to battle the biggest b**** of them all 'Gravity'
I made this exact same argument last year that you can't just scale people up in size and expect them to be the same physically.
Yao needs to swim a lot more and lay down a lot more than the normal human being.. this will reduce stress on his body and let him heal more than other people.
maybe its because im a bit of a science nerd, but seeing this kind of analysis in basketball is... awesome.
Good article. The reality is humans are not really meant to be 7'6. Much less 7'6 and dealing with the physical rigors of the NBA.
It is fascinating, but depressing at the same time. Yao will always be susceptible to stress fractures. I wonder if these scientists can calculate how much less likely he is to get a stress fracture if his minutes reduce from 34 to 30.
And how many fouls have been called on gravity? Exactly. That jerk has been getting a free ride since Newton!
The chart didn't mention how the body build will effect the result, just list the height, that's why my question. I think we all understand that, in general, it's the combination of the height & weight really impacts the fracture, not just height along. Athletes tend to have less problem because of their work on the muscle which can help reduce the weight on the bone.
