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4th quarter mishap

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ross84, May 11, 2009.

  1. ross84

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    Unfortunately I did not watch the 4th playoff game but I heard an interesting comment on the news. The reason the lakers closed a 29 pt defect to a 10 pt was because they basically stopped guarding Hayes. Even though we won the game, this strategy obviously worked flawlessly for them. I believe we should set some plays for chuck. I believe that he needs to put up about 15 pts for us to win game five. Yes he is offensively horrible but I think Adelman can draw up some easy buckets for him when they are neglecting to guard him. Otherwise, they will continue to do what they have done in the 4th quarter.

    Yes we whipped their ass but that is not good enough to win this series. We need to figure out why they caught up and counter their strategy once more. I am a big fan of the rockets. I've been watching them for 15 years but I don't claim to know the ins and outs of basketball strategies. I'm here to see your opinion on this and ideas of what we can do to stop them from running over us as they did in the 4th quarter.

    GO ROCKETS!!
     
  2. dachuda86

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    it's tracy's fault...
     
  3. Old Man Rock

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    The lakers were definitely guarding Hayes in the first half. I told my brother, man they have the sorriest scouting or Jackson has become an idiot coach if they don't understand Hayes can't score. With the exception of cuts to the Basket you should cheat off of Hayes big time.

    I think it is Jackson's fault. He is not the coach he use to be. The should have started the game cheating off of Hayes but at least he should have called a timeout early in the first and made that adjustment. it is the same thing about fronting Yao. Jackson didn't get that memo and had to lose game 1 before he adjusted. Bad coaching if you ask me. But they will adjust for tomorrow.
     
  4. MiddleMan

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    Hayes should be open for lay ups if thats the case.
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    I think it was less guarding Hayes and more that Hayes relaxed his guard on Gasol. Hayes had 4 fouls on him late in the game and was starting to look winded too so its understandable he couldn't maintain the lockdown on Gasol.

    I'm not sure how much was Gasol gaurding Hayes in the first or Gasol trying to block Hayes out on rebounds. I didn't get the feeling he was trying to deny Hayes the ball. Also in the 4th they switched to half and full court traps which they weren't playing earlier that required Gasol to come out.
     
  6. RV6

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    that wasn't really the reason. Scola missed like 4 freebies, the lakers hit like 2 or 3 threes in a row and AB had two turnovers in a row, one legit, the other he got fouled and wasnt called. Houston stopped attacking and was just trying to waste time. I dont think it had a lot to do with them not guarding hayes.
     
  7. SeeingRocketRed

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    It was more about the Rockets having a huge lead and Adelman calling for them to use every second of each shot clock. So instead of looking for a good shot for 24 seconds, they wasted 23 and took whatever they had at that point.

    It's not the strategy I like and use in NBA live with a big lead (I'm trying to make it bigger), but it worked.

    Actually, it might help us out in game 5, because the Lakers have some fool's gold. They think they can work Hayes in the post. They think they can defend us. They would be wrong.
     
  8. Fyreball

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    It was a combination of them not guarding Hayes, but also Hayes not guarding Gasol. Hayes had 4 fouls, and we were up by 20+, so there was no need to stop the clock and let the Lakers get to the FT line. Gasol had something like 18 pts in the 4th, when he had only scored 12 before that in the entire game. I'm not too worried about the comeback, but I am worried about how Brooks is going to respond once they key in on him defensively tomorrow.
     
  9. ncagg42

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    JA Adande said it the best, their run in the fourth was as significant as an arod home run in the 9th of a blowout. We were playing not to lose (when your up 30 with 10 minutes to go, actually not a bad idea) by milking the clock every possesion and guarding the 3 ball.


    However, I do agree that if chuck is going to be in the game for that long, he must contribute on offense. I know many might disagree,but he isn't as bad on offense as many might think. Yes he doesn't score that much, but he also doesn't shoot. I have seen a few post up moves and he isn't bad. He has a little baby hook that ive seen him use well on occasion. Remember, he started for us 2 years ago in the series against the Jazz, and if i remember correctly had over 10 points on multiple occasion.

    The main thing for chuck is offensive rebounds and putbacks, then they won't leave him open because they know they will have to have a body on him after every shot.
     
  10. DonkeyMagic

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    they were trapping so one guy was going to be left open, and that's hayes.

    that being said, the lakers will certainly make adjustments to hayes.
     
  11. Depressio

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    It wasn't that they stopped guarding Hayes.

    It wasn't that Hayes relaxed on Gasol.

    It was Gasol beginning to face up on Chuck. Chuck can't do his thing if the guy he's on faces up. This is what has me most worried for Game 5. Expect Gasol to face up Chuck every time he gets the ball.
     
  12. Dave_78

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    The lead got cut because the Rockets started playing "not to lose" instead of to win. I watched Brooks dribble around and not even look at some of the wide open shots he or other Rockets had because he was trying to run down the clock. Of course, the Rockets started turning the ball over instead of just running the offense.

    The Lakers were never a threat no matter what the final score showed but I would like to see players continuing to play instead of dribbling out the shot clock when there are still five minutes left in the game.
     
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    and expect Gasol to have 5-6 turnovers.
     
  14. BucMan55

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    There were lots of open looks by all the Rockets with 15-16 seconds left on the clock, almost as soon as they beat the halfcourt trap. They didnt take them because they were trying to run the clock down.


    Nothing to see here. Move along.
     
  15. Depressio

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    Chuck does have some quick hands/arms...
     
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    My concern is the Rockets don't deal with pressure defense very well, and if they're leaving Chuck to send multiple players at the ball-handler we'll be in a tough spot. Hopefully the Rockets are talking about this and coming up with a gameplan to counter it. We need to make the proper adjustment right away, if that's what the Lakers are going to do.
     
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    +1.

    for those still fretting. google: garbage time minutes.
     
  18. Robert

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    I wouild expect RA to make that point in practice and before Tuesday's game. He saw what happened, and he's a good coach and has a good staff. It will be addressed. But, as Phil said after the game, the coaches can do all the talking before the game; it's up to the players to execute.

    And the Rockets still have problems with sticking to the game plan for 48 minutes.
     
  19. archinkent

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    yeah that was the case. gasol came out to trap brooks and he held the ball instead of swinging it around to hayes. we weren't playing our game at all in the 4th quarter so don't look too much into it
     
  20. guangzu

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    Yao feed him most of the times for easy layup.
     

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