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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by FR0497, May 9, 2009.

  1. LCII

    LCII Member

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    Most players improve their game in the offseason. But yeah if Brooks still performs like this at the start of next season you know Lowry is going to get the nod.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    great point. the lakers were #4 in forcing opponents to turn the ball over during the reg. season. their length/athleticism/quickness do cause problems.

    deron williams averaged 4.2 turnovers v. the lakers and he's an elite PG.
     
  3. arabrocket

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    acutaly arent our turnovers total in 3 games higher then our assist numbers???
     
  4. rockets86

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    It is very simple why we lose, too many turnovers. I was surprise we did not get blown out with so many turnovers. Brooks is simply not good enough. He is dribbling too much and making bad passes which lead to fast break at the other end. Lorwy should be our starting PG. Turnovers are worse than bad shots. Bad shots have atleast a chance of going in.
     
  5. BucMan55

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    Its difficult to imagine a team like the Lakers winning the turnover margin by +10 and making 3 pointers out the wazoo(especially Kobe's wazoo) and not blowing us out.


    I mean besides from getting a bunch of offensive rebounds, why was this a contest in the 4th quarter???


    If Rick can get the turnover thing handled we can still (somehow) win this series.
     
  6. BucMan55

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    Yes, I think its a grand total of 5 more TOs than assists on the series. Tonight it was just one more.


    Not Rockets Basketball!
     
  7. davidxhz

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    that's why we need a good PG, so far we are doomed...
     
  8. Glacier

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    The refs should be blamed for calling a ridiculous call on Artest. Speaking of the game, the Lakers were clearly a better team tonight. In the last two games, we played very bad in the 3rd quarter. We used to play well in the 3rd quarter. RA must make some adjustments for next game.
     
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    hmmm, anybody shocked? Check out Aaron Brooks's season splits on Turnovers against the Lakers, comparing it to his season average.
     
  10. FR0497

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    It's not just Brooks. He only had 3 of the 17 today and 2 of the 19 in Game 2.

    Though he is absolutely horrible and getting Yao the ball and has a very bad habit of running in circles on the court dribbling out the clock.
     
  11. michecon

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    It's not and it is. When your offense isn't as organized, and out of sync. You are that much more prone to TOs.
     
  12. choujie

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    Offense starts with PG. Rockets have never got a real good PG since Yao's here. Francis is a SG in PG's body, Sura was the best Rockets had at PG position but he didn't last for more than one season.
     
  13. choujie

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    Not just Brooks. But a starting pg who takes majority of the time with 5 assists and 8 TOs in 3 games of a playoff series is something never happened before, I believe.
     
  14. FR0497

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    Very true. And so many people thought Rafer's ability to run the offense was overrated.

    I think Lowry does a much better job at setting up the offense and he should be given a shot at starting the next game. Brooks played very well with the 2nd unit anyway in the beginning of the season.
     
  15. professorjay

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    We had a tie at halftime in game 2, and then turnovers at the beginning of the 2nd half gave them a 10 point lead. And then hell broke loose...which shot down any chance of coming back.

    Tonight we had turnovers from the get go, and we were doing really well to get to halftime w/ a small margin. But the turnovers kept coming and they kept getting offensive boards. You can only stick around so long before these things kill you.

    Many turnovers are from a lack of focus, which is inexcusable.
     
  16. glimmertwins

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    ...we have been careless with the ball the entire series. Remember the ball that bounced TWICE to Ron Artest in game 1 for the open 3? If the Lakers had put any effort in on that play, it would have been an easy steal. The real amazing thing is the Rockets have been in the last two games until late despite so many turnovers giving the Lakers easy points. I truly believe we can win the next three games in a row if we limit turnovers to five a game. I really believe that...unfortunately, there is nothing about this team that leads me to believe they can do that even once. LA's defense has really been to wait for Houston to make a mistake and the Rockets have obliged frequently....they aren't really sitting in lanes either - just hanging around guys who get bad passes. Adelman must be going crazy on the bench...
     
  17. NBAlover

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    agreed. being Young is not a excuse. being young is also not a mistake but coach RA should have been aware of it. i agree we should give brooks chance to play games but not in important playoff games unless Rockets didn't intend to get a good result in this season when they decided to send Alston to Orlando.
     
  18. NBAlover

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    he got absolutely more than 3 turnovers. all my friends watching TV said it's strange the stats only showed 3.
     
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    if you have start up a PG with less assists than Ron (who's the no.2 scorer in the team and not good at passing), you dont expect you have few tos when you need him pass, you know whom i'm talking about.
     
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    Yes, turnovers destroyed us.

    However, I'd like to add one thing on top of that, and it's called BOXING OUT. I get sick and tired of seeing Odom/Ariza/Kobe fly into the lane untouched, and either tipping the ball back out,putting it back in, or just getting a shot at another possession. We are not good enough to allow those types of things. This is what we've been affective up until this series, because we do the little things in order to win basketball games. We out hustle the other team, and limit the turn overs. However this series were doing neither. I'm getting sick and tired of watching Battier/Hayes being the only ones willing to put a body on someone.
     

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