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[7seconds or mess] Analysis of faulty entry passes to Yao

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bugerking3, May 8, 2009.

  1. bugerking3

    bugerking3 Member

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    http://7secondsormess.blogspot.com/2009/05/7som-lakers-vs-rockets-game-2.html

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  2. Grandpappy

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    Nothing new here - Brooks and Artest suck at getting the ball to Yao.


    Good vid though, thanks!
     
  3. BaiHua

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    Find your "go to man" or Go home

    what a brilliant thread
     
  4. wnes

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    Great video analysis. But it doesn't matter to those Brooks apologists / Yao bashers. (Shall I name names?)
     
  5. shortfuse3

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    noone in the league can pass to yao when hes fronted. as the catcher, ur supposed to do your job as well to go get the ball. you can't hope that the ball lands perfectly in your hands. yao is a bad catcher because he's very immobile. he's more to blame than brooks or artest.
     
  6. rodmanhust

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    very good analysis.
    our guards need to take a good look at this~
     
  7. Big MAK

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    Tracy was always one of the best at getting Yao the ball... Too bad that was one of the only things he did well for our team!
     
  8. jump shooter

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    Nothing new here- Yao completely and totally sucks at getting position to recieve the entry pass.
     
  9. Rockets Jones

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    Thanks a lot for that video. It really shows how the Rockets blew it again.... and again.... and again. The main guy involved: AB
    It shocks me how Artest failed to pass it to Yao too, though I did see the last one where he forced it and ran into 3 lakers.

    Like I stated in the thread 'Rockets are playing hard, but not smart' the Rockets need to get the ball to Yao. It's shocking how they still fail to give Yao the ball, especially Ron since he's big enough to throw a good lob pass but doesn't.

    Quit being ballhogs AB & Ron, pass the freaking ball !!! Stop playing stupid, we could've won Game 2 despite the officiating if we had just stayed patient and gave it to Yao.

    The most terrible one was where Battier had it in the corner and passed it to Brooks, obviously for him to pass it to Yao since his view was pretty much blocked and Yao got deeper post position. AB just ignores him and throws a hand hander !!! :mad: I saw it during the game but rewatching it makes it even worse.

    Somehow I think the Rockets coaches are not stressing this enough. If I were RA I would've watched this with the whole team and yelled at AB, Artest whoever like: "Why the hell didn't you pass it to Yao ?? Are you blind !!" A message needs to be sent to these numbnuts.
     
  10. ninja nick

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    Why don't they set a screen on Yao's defender and let him roll to the bucket.
     
  11. saleem

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    It is a combination of Yao's inability to hold position, and of the guards being unable to get the ball to him on those rare occasions when he does manage to
    hold position properly.
     
  12. professorjay

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    Thanks for sharing.

    The play where Brooks drives in for an off-balanced tear drop was the most memorable. I remember at the time seeing Yao nearly under the basket and no one was willing to pass it in. (Around the 1:30 mark I think) I was baffled.

    I think Brooks has to make his 'reads' better, like a QB. I think he gets a little nervous after his intial read and decides he has to make a move instead of trying to re-evaluate the offense.

    I'm sure Adelman is showing the team these same clips and we'll see this fixed tonight.
     
  13. Grandpappy

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    I'll give you that, to an extent. Both parties are at fault of course, and Yao isn't very good at getting position ('completely and totally sucks' is a bit of an overstatement though).

    But this video shows all of the times Yao was in position but wasn't passed to; and the majority of those miscues were with Artest or Brooks handling the ball.
     
  14. oldgunrules

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    That should've been 6 easy points for us right there. This happens game after game with Brooks. How could he not see that? And more amazingly, how can the coaching stuff let this happen?

    On the other hand, Yao has a bad habit of moving too early and in the wrong direction that allows his man to front him much easier(not shown in this clip). I've seen it many times that Yao has already sealed his man behind him, but for some reason he turns his body towards the basket BEFORE the ball is passed to him. That body turn leaves a huge room for his defender to easily slide in front of him. Talk about patience. It should start with himself. Just hold the position and call for the ball, there is no way his defender can get over his huge body without fouling. I think this habit is the result of his struggles in his earlier years when he did not have the strength to seal his man. He had to constantly move to get the ball. If you watch Shaq and Duncan, once they plant themselves down low they don't move. Now Yao has the same strength to do the same. It's the easiest way to counter fronting.
     
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    How come ron artest didn't have a problem getting entry passes in the in the qt?
     
  16. professorjay

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    Yao is really lousy at beating the front and holding his position. The majority of the time it's on him to make it happen.

    But you have to admit there are times when Yao is doing his job and he's just not getting it. And if anyone's kept track, I've been pretty adamant that AB, overall, has been doing a good job...I don't get into this stupid Yao vs AB thing. As I've mentioned in another thread, AB was a little more hesitant on some passes and shots in game 2, unlike game 1 where he didn't hold back and kept the Lakers on their heels.
     
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    AB sucks
     
  18. wuxu

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    Chinese?
     
  19. jump shooter

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    If Yao had better balance he would be one of the all time greatest centers to play the game. I guess nature compensates. I don't think the rocket players have alot of confidence feeding Yao and some are better than others in doing it, but if only Yao had the foot speed to hold his position on the block he would become a easy target for entry passes. I have noticed when Yao has alot of energy during certain games he gets much better position on the block then when he's not playing with energy.
     
  20. blender

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    Yao looked like he got pretty good position in the plays shown in the video.

    What I'm wondering is how much the shot clock affects Brooks's decisions. In the second and third plays involving Brooks in the video, there was fewer than 10 seconds left on the shot clock (8 and 6 I believe). Perhaps he just doesn't think there's enough time for Yao to get the entry pass and score, so he takes it upon himself. And in a pressure-filled game like the last one, he probably rushes it even more.
     

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