you're mad.. you speak of it.. as if it had been a light jab at his side.. it was wound and reared intentional elbow to a man's neck..... tell me.. how would you have reacted.. being on the receiving end.. and after seeing previous incidents of it.. inflicted on your teammates..? notice how no one on the Rockets made much of Kobe's game 1 truly "weak" display against Shane.. until Artest now mentions the true correalating nature of it.. to tonights incident..? if you have to make a spectacle of it in the process of making it known to the individual responsible.. directly.. at the cost of one game.. but at a gain in the long run.. then so be it.. to ensure that everyone on the opposition.. he seems encouraged by such poor play by their star player.. that you're not going to let it go unnoticed.. or without repercussions if it continues.. at such times.. you don't simply stick up for yourself.. and the wrong commited against you.. but for your team.. and the wrong commited against your team.. when no official seems willing to.. you have to make that message.. and draw that attention.. as overtly clear.. as the wrong..
And that's the bottom line: He wasn't going to be denied, until HE DENIED HIMSELF by getting tossed. Fair or not, he knew he was taking that chance by approaching Kobe after everything that had happened. And it might have cost the Rockets a game that would have absolutely nailed the coffin shut on those whiny little Laker b****es. But all that means is that it's up to Ron-Ron to make sure we get three more wins. You hear that, big guy? You've made your point -- now keep your wits about you and let's send these pu$$ies down to Cabo for some May marlin fishing.
What's with all the people trying to compare Ron & Shane like they're the same person? And LOL at the guy who said that Kobe smirked when Ron got in his grill. Kobe was the definition of shook. He doesn't want it with Ron and Ron knows it. So for the peeps who are saying that Shane is getting in Kobe's head (which I agree with), I would also say that Ron's now in Kobe's head too. There's no way Kobe cheap shots Ron again. And if Kobe's super psycho-competitive ass turns it down just a teeny tiny notch for the fear of getting his ass kicked, then Ron and the Rockets won that battle and (hopefully) the war.
if the exact moment of ejection hadn't come right after ron did the elbow to throat motion that the refs misinterpreted, i would be more inclined to agree with the threadstarter. i don't mind a tech in that situation, but there's no reason at all he should've been ejected.
Will is wrong on the Artest issue, a man has to stand up and let the other man know it will not be tolerated. Battier needs to start moving his foot into Kobe's landing area as he shoots his jumpers ala Bruce Bowen. You don't take it, you hit back, but in subtle ways. Ron did exactly what he should do, and did not deserve an ejection. DD
Face it Will, other than Wafer you are wrong on Artest, just like you were wrong on Yao from the beginning and had to make a change of heart. That's alright, this forum needs honest discussions!
Why is it the 2nd person always get's caught! The refs need to look over video and penalize the BS crap Lakers are pulling out.
Yes, but a smart man will always consider the situation and the possible repurcussions before acting, regardless of whether he feels validated in doing so based on principle. Kobe got physical with him in a regular season game, and it caused Artest to try to be "tough" and lose sight of the team concept. With Ron unhinged, the Lakers too advantage down the stretch. Real toughness is having the mental strength to not let what the opponent does phase you. In that sense, I respect Battier's toughness more than Artest's.
What else was Ron supposed to do? He just gets a hard elbow and he supposed to smile and walk away? Disagree...he needs to let Kobe know, he outweights that fu by at least 50lbs of pure muscle and he is elbowing the wrong person...Lakers want to show us they are physical and can be bullies, we can't back down...gotta still keep our heads in the game, but that doesn't mean taking it from the lakers and just lowering our heads and being their biyatches...
whack thread...Artest is the man he did the right thing to prove his point. I don't blame the refs for anything but it was our D that allowed the role players to make shots. We played hard and we'll be ready for the next game
He didn't prove jack, other than its really easy to take him out of a game. It happened in that regular season game when Kobe decided to get physical with him, and now it happened again in a crucial playoff game.
Disagree. I think by Ron bringing so much attention to Kobe's dirty play, he may be forcing the NBA's hand. It remains to be seen, but if Kobe is suspended one game I don't see how you could say it was a mistake. It's justice. Comparing it to the Scola incident makes no sense. Of course Scola didn't get upset because they not only called the foul, but gave Fisher a flagrant 2, just like Ron wouldn't have gotten upset if they rightfully called a flagrant 2 on Kobe instead of a foul on Ron.
