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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by aka ace, May 31, 2002.

  1. aka ace

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    This is a REAL trade possibility....

    Houston Trades
    #1 #15 (Filler)

    Houston Receives
    #2 Lamar Odom

    Chicago Trades
    #2 Jamaal Crawford

    Chicago Receives
    #1 (Filler from Houston)

    L.A. Trades
    Lamar Odom

    L.A. Receives
    Jamaal Crawford + #15

    This trade benefits all 3 teams....
    Houston receives the #2 pick which would be Yao Ming considering the Bulls pick up Jay Williams. They also pick up Lamar Odom to fill the need at the SF position.

    Chicago receives the #1 pick which would be a guarantee them Jay Williams.

    L.A. receives Jamaal Crawford a young PG with lots of potential and costs barely nothing to Sterling. They also receive the #15th pick allowing them to trade all 3 picks (#8, #12, #15) to move up in the draft. I can see them trading all 3 to Denver (#5 pick) because Denver needs to rebuild and draft young players.
    Jamaal + Drew Gooden/Wilcox/Bochardt/Wagner? > Lamar Odom considering the fact they have a glut at SF position.

    Do you guys see this happening in the future? I do.
     
  2. bigboymumu

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    1 and 15

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    2 and Odom.

    I am all for that but I think we will have a hard time getting anyone to agree to it.
     
  3. WHADDAYATHINK

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    I have to agree with big boy. Nuff said.
     
  4. GATER

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    Just tell Krause (who supposedly wants Jay Will) that your getting some serious bids for the #1 pick but you'll not trade the pick if he'll kick in Crawford in a trade. Then keep #1 and deal Crawford + KT + #15 for Odom . (Courtesy of poster New Jack).

    This is more a more likely scenario. I don't think Sterling would only take Crawford + 15 for Odom. But if he would...
     
  5. TBar

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    I would love to get Ming plus Odom - that sets us up for years at the #5 and #3

    Fraid it will not happen though
     
  6. DCkid

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    I like this idea. Tell Krause the Clippers have offered Odom for the #1 (which they probably have) and we're seriously thinking about making the trade. I could easily see the Clippers trading Odom for Crawford, Kenny, and the #15. All I really know about Crawford is that Jordan loves him, so there must be something about him. And the Clippers could use #15 pick as part of another trade package.

    I'm really not as high on Odom as many are, but if the Rockets could get him while still getting Ming I would have no problem with it.
     
  7. Nellie

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    For LA to do this deal would be allowing the Rockets to improve too much. Why would they do that?

    Besides, if LA was stupid enough to pull the trigger on a deal like that, Cuban would do something to break it up.
     
  8. Darth West

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    You basically admit you know nothing about Crawford but you still say "I could easily see the Clippers trading Odom for Crawford, Kenny, and the #15." ... If you dont know anything about him how can you assume he is a good fit for the Clippers? ... :confused:

    Getting Odom without giving up the #1 pick will be difficult ... while the #1 is highly sought after and "unique" the #15 + whatever you can get from trading down a spot will be much easier to overbid for other teams interested in Odom ...
     
  9. DCkid

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    I never said Crawford would fit in with the Clippers, I said I could easily see that trade happening. Yes, he may not "fit" with the Clips (that is, if you actually believe the Clippers management makes good decisions based on whether a player fits in their "scheme"), but as far as I can tell they do not have a point guard or anything closely resembling a point guard. Crawford has been labeled as a point guard by many. I've heard very positive things about him. Jordan likes him so much there have been many rumors about the Wizards trying to acquire him. It seems to me like a young point guard is what the Clippers need more than anything. So, what's the problem? :confused:

    It's pretty obvious Odom will not be on the Clippers at the start of the season. There might not be any better trades available since small forward is one of the deepest positions in the NBA and there aren't too many other ways for the Clippers to get a point guard.
     
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  10. GATER

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    Originally posted by Nellie -
    For LA to do this deal would be allowing the Rockets to improve too much. Why would they do that?

    When did owner Donald Sterling start to prioritize winning over accumulating cheap talent? I don't think he cares what the Rocks do.

    Besides, if LA was stupid enough to pull the trigger on a deal like that, Cuban would do something to break it up.

    Like what?

    First, you are assuming he would have prior knowlege...not likley.

    Secondly, the Mavs have $58m in committed contracts...not much flexibility.

    Lastly, is there anybody on the Mavs worth "giving" Chicago that Chicago wants and the Mavs would spare

    1) Bradley, Griffin, Manning, Eschmeyer?.... No.

    2) Van Exel? - 3 years @ $32m? ... no way.

    3) Avery Johnson (who couldn't make the playoff squad) - 2 years @ $10m?....thumbs down.


    Sorry Mark Cuban, there are some things in life money can't buy. :p
     
  11. Darth West

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    Well they do have Marco Jaric coming over this year ... he is a 6'7 PG who is arguably the best player in Europe and is belived to be ready to step in right away ...
     
  12. Nellie

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    Damn button!! Sorry, here is my response to the above thread:

    The Elton Brand deal sure wasn't cheap was it? It would have been much more cost efficient to sign a rookie than take on Brand's contract so your theory has some holes in it. Yes, I agree the man is cheap. But to say that he care so much about being cheap and doesn't care how good the Rockets get is a little fabricated.

    As far the Cuban thing...that was a joke man. Calm down.
     
  14. Sofine81

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    First of all leme say I mean no disrespect, But I dont know why all of you are so hung up on Odom.....In my Opinion, he is a "poor man's" Scootie Pippen, and we all know how Pippen worked here.


    Rudy likes 3 pt shooting SF and Odom is less of a 3 pt shooter then Pip was, I think the whole Odom thing is overrated in a BIG way! And yall talk aboutt he risks with Ming, what are you gonna do when your big 3 are caught "puffin the magic dragon"?

    THANK YOU
     
  15. davethej

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    Back to the day of Lucas, Wiggins, Lloyd. :eek:
     
  16. GATER

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    Originally posted by Nellie -
    The Elton Brand deal sure wasn't cheap was it?

    Depends on how you define "cheap". If Elton Brand played for the Rockets his salary would be dwarfed by Rice and Taylor and never reach Cato's initial contract level until Brands final year. Brand would only be the fifth highest paid Rocket.

    I said Sterling was cheap..I never said he was stupid. An unproven HS kid for a low-budget proven player? Not a difficult choice.

    As far the Cuban thing...that was a joke man. Calm down.

    See the little "smilies" to the left when you post/reply? It might be prudent to use them if you don't want someone to respond in a serious manner. :D
     
  17. Nellie

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  18. Nellie

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    Depends on how you define "cheap". If Elton Brand played for the Rockets his salary would be dwarfed by Rice and Taylor and never reach Cato's initial contract level until Brands final year. Brand would only be the fifth highest paid Rocket.

    You are changing the subject now from Sterling being cheap to where Brand would be on the Rockets payroll. Whatever, I am tired of talking about it anyway.


    See the little "smilies" to the left when you post/reply? It might be prudent to use them if you don't want someone to respond in a serious manner.

    Good tip. As you can tell from how many times I have posted here that I am a new guy on the block so a little lattitude is appreciated.
     
  19. NYKRule

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    Sorry Mark Cuban, there are some things in life money can't buy.

    LOL Send it in to MasterCard ASAP.
     
  20. Nellie

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    Finaly watching Peter Vescey correct a "mistake": priceless
     

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