What floppers list? Can I see this list? Is there a reference to it somewhere else? If there is a secret list I don't believe anyone told Richard Justice about it.
My impression is that it is a list for the refs to pay attention to certain players who have the reputation for the flopping because some teams are protesting. Clearly, Joel Przybilla's name is on the list, that is only thing I am interesting. Could someone change the thread title into "Joel Przybilla's name is on the flopper list? so that we do not have a misunderstanding for this thread.
"ALL" is too big a word to be used carelessly, as big as a 7'6 most-famous-international all-star center, he is also the most famous victim of flopping
From what I've seen of Chinese NBA players, all 4 of them or whatever the miniscule sample size is, they aren't prone to flopping. I think the more accurate way to put it is that most European and South American players in the NBA have a tendency to flop. I believe this has a lot to do with those players being from countries where soccer is far and away the most popular sport. Many of the European and South American players in the NBA played soccer as a kid and even if they didn't, still grew up within a soccer-obsessed culture. Flopping is a common tactic in soccer and literally accepted by the referees and leagues. I am guessing that when basketball started to become popular in these European and South American countries, almost all the players came from soccer backgrounds. It makes perfect sense that as a result, the art of flopping carried over into the foundations of basketball as a legitimate sport in these same countries.
American players flop a lot too. CP3, Wade, Shaq, Battier, Deron, Boozer... Truth is that refereeing is so inconsistent that half the time the foul is not sold to thee refs, they won´t call it. Tell me how are the possibilities of a rookie getting an offensive call against Kobe without floping?
1) Please stop the posts saying McGrady can't go to the game... it wasn't really funny to begin with, and it isn't funny on the 300th post. 2) Battier and Ron are still excellent defenders. Not being a super-hero doesn't mean you should be on the bench. 3) Scola is a chronic flopper (and it pisses me off, especially when his flops leave wide open shooters). Battier flops occassionally and has been doing it for a long time, but only drawing a charge and only to sell it. On a floppers scale of 1-10, I would rate him a 2. 4) Pryzbilla should wear an honorary Utah Jazz jersey Tuesday. He must flop 10 time per game.
Man, I really hope Tracy is not at the game. He is bad luck. He jinxed his whole playoff career with the simple words, "It feels good to go to the second round," when they still had to win their 4th game.
Flopping can be charged with a yellow card, however, in soccer, unlike in NBA, where nothing is done about flopping. Two yeloow cards and you are out of the game.
I totally agree. I was just making a guess as to why flopping seems to be so common among European and South American players that come to the NBA. There are probably other reasons beyond just the soccer connection and, as other people have pointed out, floppers aren't all from overseas - some are American. What you are getting at is what we should do about the issue. I could have sworn the NBA planned to start fining people this season but I haven't heard of a single fine being handed out yet. Maybe I misheard and nothing was ever put in place. I definitely think that flopping needs to be minimized one way or the other. It's difficult to officiate, especially when the culprit is a good actor. Fining players would be a good first step since the league can go back and review plays as opposed to refs who have to make snap judgments. People on "the list" also need to be officiated as carefully as possible. I assume they're already doing the latter. I think calling a tech for clear cases of flopping could also be beneficial.
As much as I love Scola, he does flop quite a bit, albeit not EVERY time, but that is the one part of his game I absolutely detest. Please stop, Scola.
Scola shouldn't be on that list. Most of the charges he has made are quite clean. He doesn't initial the contact but predicts the opponent’s next move based on his experience and thus wait out there for the charge.
