Our coaching staff deserves an F- to the 10th power

I'm sorry but Artest should have been guarding Dirk the entire game with Battier on Howard. As soon as Dirk started burning us I would have had a lineup of Lowry, Barry, Battier, Artest, and Yao. Also something similiar should have been inserted in the 2rd when Yao was being fronted. Just get 4 guys to camp out at the 3 with just Yao in the middle, either you get an open shot or lob it to Yao if he's fronted and if the help defender leave his man from the 3pt line you have an open shot. That's why Horry was so valuable to our championship teams.

 

no way. pretty much every football play is called by the coaches.only occasionally will you get a peyton manning who calls a lot of his own plays...though, really, that is as much coaching as talent as well as peyton is doing what a coach would be doing, then executing as the player. add in all the assistant coaches who are very active both during games and in-between...i don't think it is even close.

i said NBA and MLB are close, and I'd be fine saying coaching had equal impacts in the two sports, but NFL is way ahead. You must not watch a lot of it. Lineups change in the NFL on a play by play basis. Literally every play there is usually a different 11 guys on the field, especially on offense.

I also think you're underestimating baseball, in that there are a number of in-game decisions that have an impact.

What's more, in baseball (and football), scoring is so much lower (remember, a touchdown = 6 points, but is only 1 "score"), that all those decisions, % wise, have a bigger impact...

Regardless, you can't argue the season as a whole results, given the injuries and changes and distractions.

Baseball is the easiest damn sport to manage you get your batting order set, line up your pitchers and go at it......NFL, set the starters on defense and offense (which you figure out before even the damn season starts in preseason and training camp and let em rip)... NBA, the bottom guy on your roster might be the most important guy on any given night (every night changes due to match ups and you have to be on your toes) and you need to recognize that and put him in the game or keep him in the game when he's hot. For anybody to say this game doesn't require great coaching doesn't know crap about the game or the other sports mentioned in this thread.[/QUOTE]

 

again, you're way underestimating the impact of in game decisions for an MLB coach. something as simple as calling a hit and run, or allowing a player to steal, or a batter to swing away at a 3-0 count has a HUGE impact on baseball game. An offensive team only has 27 outs, and giving up one of those chances to score, in a very low scoring sport, is HUGE. Add in the lineup setting, the pitching changes - when, and whom to put int, etc., and MLB coaches can be very very important.

 

Holy crap did you not read were I typed...

Funny you say "I must not watch alot of NFL football", that's my biggest sport and no, the plays don't change near as must as they do in basketball...(that's laughable you even typed that, NBA can totally flip a entire gameplan off of a couple of plays or a mismatch on that given night, which requires COACHING)..NFL teams take about a week to prepare the package they're going to run that week and sped all week coaching it......NBA has a night's sleep and they still have to decide which bench player is going to impact, let alone work the one healthy player that's available to them because of the team playing almost ever night. Honestly the NFL plus MLB manager (physical demand meets number of games = NBA team and manager)

Nope I'm not underestimating crap... The NFL season is too short to shake up lineups, the roster is usually already decided before the season starts. Just like Major league baseball...for god sakes the season is 162 games long, the manager already has his lineup let and ready to go (atleast any decent one would)..... In the NBA you have a 82 game season, but it's also on the fly and is a full contact sport. (NFL meets MLB...physicality meets full contact) Your manager has to make calls and substitutions on the fly.

Baseball is the easiest damn sport to manage you get your batting order set, line up your pitchers and go at it......NFL, set the starters on defense and offense (which you figure out before even the damn season starts in preseason and training camp and let em rip)... NBA, the bottom guy on your roster might be the most important guy on any given night (every night changes due to match ups and you have to be on your toes) and you need to recognize that and put him in the game or keep him in the game when he's hot. For anybody to say this game doesn't require great coaching doesn't know crap about the game or the other sports mentioned in this thread.

 

this game reminds me of Ryan Bowen.

 

Phil Jackson never lost Kobe for 47 games this season like we lost TMac. Not to mention when TMac did play, he COST us more games than he helped us win.

Name a coach available on the market that could put together 53 wins in the western conference, with a $20 million hole in the roster.

As for JVG, even JVG had Yao playing 48 games in 06/07, and TMac was playing well in 06/07. Adelman has pulled off a miracle this season as no other coach on the market could put together 53 wins with a $20 million hole in the roster.

 

I agree with this analogy and said something similar in another post. The only difference I have is that I would still put Von in instead of Barry. Barry would have had to guard Terry, and I definitely don't like that matchup. I think Von could guard Terry if he was told to stick to him like GLUE and don't even think about helping out on defense on any play including a time out...haha.

Then with Lowry, Von, Batter, Artest and Yao on the court offensively, Dallas would have had a hell of a time trying to match up. We could have spread the court and allowed Lowry to penetrate or Yao to beat his man one on one, or Yao to kick to a 3-pt shooter.

This is why so many are upset with RA. He just doesn't seem to coach in the game. He tries to do all of his coaching in practice and just allow the players to do whatever happens during the game.

RA just installs his system like a computer program and allows it to run without any support. You rarely see him make an in game decision that changes the tone of the game. He usually has to make his changes from game to game.

 

What game did you watch?I don't think it was the same game we all watched.

 

Those of you that don't think Adelman cost us this game needs to rethink about their BB knowledge or lack of there of.

Yao didn't disappear, the team stop going to him after the first half. By the time in the 4th quarter, he wasted all his energy fighting for worthless positions that no one passes to him.

Yao uses much more energy fighting for positions when his teammates doesn't pass him the ball. When the teammates do passes, it usually Yao who stands there and they passes the ball around him. Instead, Yao chases to both sides and still no one passes him the ball.

Scola is not a good matchup for Dirk, because in order to beat dirk you need a physical body on him. scola is not strong or physcial like hayes or landry.

Like the commenators said AB is offense, and Lowry is passer type of PG. when we don't go thru Yao on offense, no one will get shots, as they can't be open.

Adelman is tanking to matchup Blazers. at least that's what i am hoping why he did it.

 

1. Uh, didn't quite think Shane was fast enough.
2. Did you see the shots he made? We was ON. Some of his shots were just freakin' amazing.
3. That's just not true. Plus, who's Yao setting the pick for? Brooks or Artest?
4. Ha.
5. Landry? Landry's defense is way worse that Dirk's. If you want to shut him down, you gotta go with Chuck.

 

oh yes, you can call a timeout just after one. The timeout is not to tell the players anything, its used to break the opposite tempo/confidence/concentration.

Another thing, where is Hayes? When someone is torching you, you need to put your best defender on him.

 

Then you, sir, are a mental midget.

Did you not watch the game?

Let me tell you how the last 8 minutes went.

-Yao comes into game.
-Rockets don't get him the ball.
-Artest is unable to pass ball to Yao. Jacks 3 instead. Misses badly. Is not benched.
-Defense bends over and takes it up the pooper because Adelman's infinite wisdom switched Lowry over to Terry.
-Terry scores again.
-Terry scores again.
-Terry scores again.
-Adelman takes timeout. Tells everyone "I'm ok, you're ok." Shares a hug with team. Gives out massages. Promises pizza party even if they lose.
-Timeout over.
-Artest can't get ball into Yao. Jacks 3 instead. Misses badly. Is not benched.
-Terry scores again.
-Terry scores again.
-Terry scores again.
-Artest decides to dribble into three defenders and take the game over. Epic fail.
-Terry scores again.
Game over. Final Score :Rockets 84 Mavericks 95. Rockets outscored 15-4 in last 5 minutes of game. Yao touched the ball twice in the final 8 minutes. Yeah, it's not Adelman's fault.
-Terry scores again.

 

Jason Terry owns the Rockets. Man, I wish we had someone like him.

 

all of it comes from the top. adelman lost the game for us (as he has many many games during the season).

 

Big deal. This is a 65+ win team. Yes, they are this talented. They lost about 15 games to bottom teams. Coach RA definitely underachieved.

 

You're right man! I'm fired up! RA and his staff could only lead this team to 53 wins with a third of the payroll a complete non factor for most all of the season...the game against Dallas proved everything. We need a guy like Avery who's team can win 67 regular season games and then tank in the 1st round. I'm pissed that RA's only two season's here are the best we've had in a decade and that he did it through tremendous adversity and season ending injuries.

You're right though, this Dallas loss in one of the toughest arenas in the league finally makes me realize RA's trash and we should have fired him after last season. Hell, I don't see how any team could want him. Sacramento is so much better now than when he was weighing them down all those years.

 

So you don't mind your coach not coaching the team when they need him the most.

Some of y'all need to wake the hell up, anybody that has ever played any kind of organized basketball should've been floored when they heard the guy called two timeout to just give pep talks when it WAS CLEAR Dallas made obvious ADJUSTMENTS TO WHAT WE WERE RUNNING.....yet Adelman doesn't draw up ****, he just gives pats on the backs to players who have a deer in a headlight look on their face


and please cut your cute sarcastic crap, outside of a miracle 22 "regular season" winning streak Adelman hasn't done crap here. Coaches earn their money in the playoffs and in games like last night that have that much riding on the line.

 

Ok, can you really blame the staff? WE"VE ALWAYS had matchup problems with Terry. He's an electric player who is unstoppable when he gets hot, and dare I say he's more efficient than KB24 because he puts up dynamic points with fewer attempts. For the Mav's, he's like a guard version of Horry. The key to stopping him is never letting him start in the first place, not guarding him. Terry also feeds off the other players strengths. He's amazing when the double team is drawn, when Howard or Dirk have trouble Terry usually bails the team out. The problems we had during this game stemmed from the fact we couldn't cut it on the offensive end. Dirk will always make shots. The problem was, near the end we were so pressed for possessions that we forced double teams, drew fouls, and really bailed out a team that had no right being in the game. None of that seems like a coaching staff issue, all of that seems like the players not executing the game plan. This team does not play well in panic, that's why when we were down late in the fourth RA didn't draw up any plays, he didn't do anything but tell the team to chill. Realistically, a coach can't act as a coordinator, emotional leader and floor general.

Truth be told, for us, this was not a playoff game. It shouldn't be even considered one. The reason being, we don't need homecourt to beat Portland (I don't care what Nuno and Raheel say), and we didn't desperately need this game. Division champs would be nice, but that's a different argument for a different thread. There was no reason Landry needed big minutes, Yao or Ron either, and a loss does not tarnish this staff. Ultimately in the bloated west we have made some noise, and we are still a threat. You really think LA wants to match up against us over Portland in the second round, you're sadly mistaken if you do. That not only shows the power of the players, it shows the power of the COACH. Portland and Houston have equally ranked talent (us with the slight edge), but what sets us apart is RA. Your argument is flawed.