All I here is Ming, Ming, and more Ming. To me Ming doesn't look like the center that is going to be scoring down low but shooting the jumper and no ofense to Ray lafrents but I don't think the rockets need or want a center that can only hit jumpers. You look at his height and you would think ya he could just go down low and shot it over 7ft shaq, Duncan, or Mutumbo but he isnt going to be getting down there with some of the other stronger players pushing him out. In his first try out he looked like he was doing good but he was playing against Brian Cristofferson what has he done. But you never know he could turn out to be like the Dream or even better, but in my mind he will be the next Shawn Bradley. Now to the trading part I think we should trade with a team like Denver for Antonio Mcdeyse and another draft pick or something in that matter. Or trade with teams like Golden State and pick up Jamison to fill the Sf void. Or in this case any team that is willing to give us a good player in return sort of like the Hawks and Grizzlies trade which involved Abdul-Rahim. I don't know what were going to do but all I can hope for is we don't pick up Ming.Don't draft Ming
I agree, the more i hear about Ming, the more the thought of drafting him scares me. Actually when he played against Kristofferson, he got knocked down a couple time, so he really didnt do that good, and even in china I've heard of this guy being manhandled by other centers. His upside, seems to be basically his height, and all his other positive are thing that we don't need atleast from a center. I;m thinking our best bet is dunleavy.
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!!!!!!! I was about to post the exact same thread. I am very skeptical about Ming and his so-called "talent" and "potential". I surely hope the Rockets don't lose sight of the fact that there are so many negatives and question marks. One of the main things that troubles me about Ming is the fact that he could miss parts of the offseasons and seasons for several years b/c of his committment to the China National basketball team. This is very discouraging and if it weren't for this fact, I would say take the chance on his potential alone. However, we can't afford to SKREW this draft up. It is SO important that we come out of this draft with a future, stud......especially with the #1 pick. I really don't think Ming will develop into that kind of player. With the #1 pick, no matter if it is a reach right now, the Rockets have to select the player that will turn out to be the best from this class (hopefully at a position of need....SF, SF, SF, SF!!!). I want Dunleavey, Butler, or Woods in no particular order. My ideal scenario, that probablly would never happen from the Memphis's standpoint: Rockets trade the #1 overall pick, the #15, and Kenny Thomas to the Grizzlies for the #4 overall pick and Shane Battier. With the #4 pick, the Rockets could draft one of the afformentioned SF's (hopefully Dunleavey). Not to say the Griz would drool over this scenario at all, but they would greatly benefit from a stud PG (Jay Williams) or a center (Ming), from the #1 pick, which are their two main areas of weakness. This way, they could move Pau Gasol strictly to the SF position where he could dominate like Dirk, and move Stromile Swift into the starting line-up to start exhibiting his 2nd overall pick status. They could then draft the best available player at #15 White Chocolate Dickerson, Rush???? Gasol Swift, KT Ming, Wright NOT BAD The Rockets could use a player like Battier. He's gritty, fundamentally sound, smart, tough, and plays D. Plus he's versatile enough to play the 2 or 3. He could start at the 3 next year while the SF we draft at #4 develops. We could look for our center next year through free agency. Francis / Mooch Mobley / Battier / Torres Battier / (Dunleavey, Woods, Butler) / Rice Griffin / Mo-T / T-Mo Cato / Collier
If Ming is gonna be a bust why would he be so good for Memphis? Do you think that if the Shanghai Sharks who supposedley prefers Ming in NY or CHI (for economical reasons) would be happy with Memphis? As for McDeyse I don't think he would make the rockets much better. Where would we find minutes for McDeyse, Griffin, MoT and KT?
Yeah.... Memphis would never trade the #4 pick and Battier for the #1 pick; Kenny Thomas and the #15 pick.... .... I think it's more Houston who wouldn't do this trade....
Was it the Chicago press telling you about the way he got manhandled? 36ppg and 20rpg on 70% shooting doesn't really indicate a whole lot of manhandling I'm on the Ming train!
Originally posted by RNuss02 I've thought about this scenario also, but I think you underestimate Yao. I think West would do the deal with just Battier and the 4 for the 1 if it were possible under the salary cap. We might be forced to throw in Collier or something! I'd probably do this deal: Battier would be a great fit for the Rockets as a point forward and might be the only star 3 whose ego could deal with getting shots only if Mobley and Mooch don't want them. Battier is already excellent in just his second year. The fact that he didn't get a single vote for ROY is criminal! But then what about the 4th pick? We'd no longer need Dunleavy, and it seems too soon for a center. Tskitishvili? Trade the 4 and the 15 for a chance at Borschardt? Or do we just grab Yao and worry about the 3 spot later? Glen Rice has looked perfectly fine from what I've heard. We can have a '3 by committee' until next year's draft. And at the 15 we could get Rush or even stretch at Tayshaun Prince. (Remember Rodrick Rhodes?) Yao needs to get stronger, no question. But from the reports I've heard, his post moves are excellent. He has been described as unstoppable when he gets the ball in the post. His problem will be getting the ball in the post. He looks like he could put on 20-30 pounds without too much effort. The problem will be getting him to work with the trainer. He may not get here till the season has started! Remember, Wang Zhizhi has never played a full season for the Mavs! And of course he can be "recalled at any time." What if we refuse to do something outrageous for the Sharks like having Rudy spend all his summers there giving training camps? Now what if we're in a playoff run and the Sharks decide to recall him "unless our terms are met"? I am sold on Yao's potential, but the politics worry me. How about trading the Collier, #1, and the #15 (for salary matching) to the Bulls for Curry and the #2? Of course, Krause wouldn't do that; he knows we'll take Ming and he's happy with Williams. We might just take Dunleavy at the #1, but I think that woul be a huge stretch. Good as he is, this is a two horse race, and we don't need a guard, so Yao it is unless we can do a deal. I doubt there's anyone on the Golden State roster we'd want (Jamison? no thanks!) and I suspect West is blowing smoke when he talks about getting Dunleavy Jr. Of course, according to rumor, he's going to hire Dunleavy Sr. as coach...... Hmmmm.......
Ming is going to be a bust! Glad to hear you all talking it up. My biggest concern is not his outside game (big man should be inside) or the government. I think he will be adefensive liability. LIABILITY. I don't care how many blocks he gets, it appears anybody can back him down to the rim. I think that will happen every time he is on the floor. We are going to have to rotate a second man over on every play. If some college stiff can do it, every big man in the league is going to want to posterize Ming, much less the Kobes, McGradys, and Francis's of the league.
Guys, come on. Ming had just flown in from China. I flew to Japan once...long-ass flight, throws you off big time. Jet lag. The flight from Shanghai would be two hours longer than my flight to Japan. That's about 15 hours on a plane. To top it off, he couldn't sleep because he knew the whole damned world was gonna come watch him shoot around (I read about this in ESPN The Magazine). The guy's a solid player, I'm sure, but he's got a mountain sitting on those narrow shoulders.
Yes, I like this thread. Trade our #1 draft pick down for a draft pick that can land us Caron Butler. When we trade down, we should also dump one of our bad contracts and get an okay player.
Rox trade #1, #15, Mooch, and KT LAC trade #8, #12, Odom, and Dooling Everybody is all so hyped about getting the #1 that they are playing Ming's value higher than it truly is. This guy is no Tim Duncan who was also 21 when he entered the L, but who played quality competition (the ACC is just a small step below the L) and domianted. Odom gives us a starting 3 who does a little bit of everything and who already has a relationship with our stars. Dooling is a big guard at 6'6'' and can play the 1 and 2. Right there we solve our problem at the 3 and get a better, cheaper backup guard. KT doesn't have a place on this team and Moochie is overpaid and dribbles too much. The draft picks could produce something like Hilario/Nachbar, Woods/Marcus, or Borchardt/Soudemire. I just keep thinking about how great a deal everyone thought LAC made last year by trading the potential player of the draft in Chandler for the established (evn though not potentially as good) Brand, maybe we should thinkabout that.
