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LeBron James is averaging 1.72 fouls per game

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by abc2007, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. abc2007

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    http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith2_090406.html

    James is averaging 1.72 fouls per game in an average of 37.9 minutes per game. James hasn't even been in foul trouble one game this season. He never has had more than four fouls called on him in a game, and since March 1 is being called for fewer than 1.3 fouls per game.

    In 12 of the 20 games since then, James has been called for one or zero fouls in a game. James had a stretch of five straight games to conclude March averaging 36.8 minutes per game without being called for one foul. Not one in five games! In the last nine games, James has been called for three personal fouls. It's really amazing given the involvement James has in the action of the game.
     
  2. supafrumpy

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    I dont watch cavs games that frequently, this this favoritism or is it legit?
     
  3. pmac

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    He charges all the time and doesn't get called for it.
     
  4. Lil Pun

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    I don't watch many Cleveland games at all but that is what I was thinking. The guys is huge and drives to the basket constantly so he has to be getting away with something there.
     
  5. Shroopy2

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    He was already getting away with travel calls, now this :)

    I dont picture Lebron on defense physicially grappling up on people much. Not many of the Chuck Hayes, Ron Artest type chops when players are going for shots. Usually Lebron goes after the ball when its in the air cuz he can. Fouls per game his CAREER hasnt been that high actually (2.0). But thats a bit low on the foul rate of late.
     
  6. ItsMyFault

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    This is complete bull. I mean if they give him fouls, he should at least have a higher foul rate. There's NO WAY he can only average 1.72 fouls per game. That's just sad and so obvious by the NBA.
     
  7. durvasa

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    He has supreme body control for a man his size, and he knows how to slip in that extra hop step to get around defenders without the refs call him for it. I rarely see him directly charge into a defender.

    BTW, here's the players with lowest fouls/48min that play at least 25 mpg (min. 30 games):
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/tiny.cgi?id=XyuPz

    Rk  Player              Tm     G     MP      MP      PF  
    1   Tracy McGrady       HOU    35    1181    33.7    1.5
    2   Tayshaun Prince     DET    78    2940    37.7    1.6
    3   Michael Finley      SAS    77    2215    28.8    1.7
    4   Jamal Crawford      TOT    65    2479    38.1    1.8
    5   Michael Redd        MIL    33    1203    36.5    1.8
    6   Allen Iverson       TOT    57    2093    36.7    2
    7   Tony Parker         SAS    68    2313    34      2
    8   Derrick Rose        CHI    78    2875    36.9    2
    9   Chris Duhon         NYK    76    2820    37.1    2.1
    10  Steve Nash          PHO    70    2378    34      2.1
    11  Brandon Roy         POR    74    2781    37.6    2.1
    12  Kevin Durant        OKC    70    2748    39.3    2.2
    13  Andre Iguodala      PHI    78    3096    39.7    2.2
    14  LeBron James        CLE    78    2948    37.8    2.2
    15  Ronnie Brewer       UTA    77    2479    32.2    2.3
    16  Jose Calderon       TOR    64    2195    34.3    2.3
    17  DeShawn Stevenson   WAS    32    886     27.7    2.3
    18  Peja Stojakovic     NOH    57    1943    34.1    2.4
    19  Luol Deng           CHI    49    1665    34      2.5
    20  Deron Williams      UTA    64    2348    36.7    2.5


    LeBron's foul rate isn't abnormally low, IMO.
     
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  8. ItsMyFault

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    Oh please, don't sit there and defend LeBron. You know there's no way in hell he only averages 1.72 fouls/game.. Refs even miss his "blocks" where he fouls them on the block attempt. It's just pathetic.
     
  9. durvasa

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    So you've given one example (I assume that's a reference to LeBron's foul on Jason Richardson). But that's not evidence that there's a trend with LeBron getting away with fouls.

    Actually, from my observation, LeBron frequently gets fouled on his drives to the basket without getting the call. So if people want to say that he gets away with charges (none come to mind for me), I would say that it calls are missed in the other direction as well.
     
  10. larsv8

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    Disgusting.
     
  11. bamtonio

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    wow tmac is on top!
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    So is Steve Nash. Neither plays defense, but TMac has been the better defender in the last few games.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    This is true even though you will now get flamed beyond belief for saying it because LeBron is a superstar for another team. Because this is a Rockets fan site, anything said in defense of LeBron will lead to scathing criticism.
    It's a two-way street where he gets away with fouls and gets hacked a lot with no foul called because of his strength.

    I'm surprised to see Brandon Roy and Ronnie Brewer up that high.
     
  14. Hydhypedplaya

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    Dude I watch a lot of basketball in general (with an open mind) and I love watching the cavs play and I have to agree with you here. Now I am not saying Lebron doesn't get any superstar calls, but nothing more than Kobe, Dwade etc.... I hate how so many people don't give Lebron the credit for the stuff he has been doing. It really really amazes me how good this guy is. Yes the media hypes him up a lot, but rightfully so IMO.

    I love reading your posts and A_3P0's posts because you guys really tell it how it is without being bias. Keep up the good work.
     
  15. ItsMyFault

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    You remember that game in Houston vs. Cleveland where he CLEARLY charged over Yao, but the refs failed to call it because it would have been his 3rd foul. He eventually got his 3rd, but he gets away with too much. If you want to the way of him getting fouled a lot on the other end, let's also bring in the travels and carrying violations he clearly gets away with.
     
  16. abc2007

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    I am not sure what your stats represent, it doesn't seem to be the fouls per game. Based on nba official stats, James is averaging 1.7 fouls per game this season.

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron_james/index.html?nav=page

    http://www.nba.com/statistics/playe...tType=9&yearsExp=-1&splitDD=&pager.offset=150

     
  17. Noob Cake

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    Don't think TMac has been playing much defense this year with a bum knee and a bad back.
     
  18. durvasa

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    I don't remember that. I might have missed that portion of the game.

    "fouls/48min"
     
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  19. abc2007

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    You quote wrong person!

     
  20. abc2007

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    durvasa, do you seriously think it's normal to average 1.7 fouls per game for a defense player of the year candidate?
     

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