this site wouldn't exist without dream. so what. tupac is dead and his music is forever. max is in jail and his heroism is eternal.
that's unintentional comedy right there. legendary dead rapper = a deadbeat dad in jail lol Maxwell wishes he had 1/10th the life and relevancy of Tupac, instead he's just another stereotypical pro athlete deadbeat dad story who had that one shining moment in life only to piss it away because he was too stupid to realize how good he had it. Vernon Maxwell is a moron and him being where he's at right now in life sounds just about right for him. No one would even think about killing Maxwell cause 1) no one knows him 2) the few who do know him don't give a damn about him except rockets sycophants who need relevancy to their existence 3) you don't kill broke ass people; they have no money to rob.
dude, this shows you no nothing about the Rockets and don't respect the championship teams. Don't even act like you know who Tupac is. he's probably cool to you cause you saw Kobe wear a shirt with his face on it.
Sheesh, W/O MadMax we would likely have ZERO championships. No he's not the ideal citizen, but so what? He's the one player that I actually believe could contain (not shut down) Jordan and although Jordan had to take a leave of absence because of his gambling habits - I apologize in advance to the newbies that actually think he wanted to begin a baseball career. I honestly think the Rox would have taken them; even if the Bulls could have beaten the Knicks or Magic -which they didn't - Max was Jordan's nemesis. I hate how most of the posters here have disowned him. Max was a huge part of our history & rather than slam him; I'd like to see a post contributing to his bail. I'm in for $25. Tinman? Etc...?
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I'm good for it too! I like how all these haters, just simply forgot game 7 against the Knicks (actually I think they never saw that game period). Rockets don't win the championship, no double clutch, Les moves the team to Louisville. Clutchfans would not exist, we'd be watching the Spurs and Mavericks.
i'm pretty sure tinman would put up the bail money himself, he may actually just pay the kid's child's support if Maxwell just drops by to tell him hi..
At least he appreciates the history of the team - as do I. How old were you when the Rox won in '94 &'95? Were you even a fan? If not, I understand why you don't respect Max.
They didn't forget it - they never saw it! I remember game 5 against the friggin' Knicks - O.J. Simpson decided to kill his ex-wife and drive around L.A. in a white Bronco. I was at A&M and had to sit in my car listening to Gene Peterson since - unlike Houston, B/CS didn't split the screen and only showed the damn car chase. It was the ultimate display of disrespect only to be outdone a week or two later after the Rox won it all and SI featured the World Cup on the cover. Man, this brings back bitter memories, but Max's 3 (along with his scream - after hitting his free-throw) and Dream's block against Starks & H-Town's First title make it much better.
Please point out to me where i disrespected Maxwell AS A PLAYER. I've only talked about the man outside of basketball. Do i respect him outside of basketball ? Hell NO. That doesn't mean i dont appreciate what he did for Houston back then.
NBA players are real people, not everybody lives this 'perfect' life that is portrayed. Maxwell's story, that's like everybody elses, Kenny Andersen, Latrell Spreewell, Shawn Kemp etc You can say it would never happen to you, but you aren't an NBA player with hot women after you and your money. I doubt that Maxwell's ex wife made most of the money in the household back in the day. So its easy to criticize Maxwell, but if the tables were turned and we know YOUR personal problems, how would feel about? You'd probably say, there's more to the story then what was written. Which is probably true with everybody including Maxwell. Its not black and white that some people think. They think Maxwell is Osama Bin Laden. I'm sure if Max was at the supermarket he wouldn't punch you in the face unless you try to insult him. '
Max was not a consistent shooter, but he was a competitor, and a great defender with the heart of a lion. Reminds me of one of our own...
How long do these athletes have to pay child support? Only up until the child turns 18 right? Or is it a for life thing? Either way, seems like a LOT of rich or ex-rich athletes have to pay child support...now i ain't sayin' she's a gold digger, but she ain't hangin' with no broke *****..
it's not the problem of Vernon himself IMHO... I'm not defending him though, I have to say that the hot weather of FL really annoys people badly and induce them to do crimes, I didn't believed that until I played the video game- GTA Vice city.
Vernon is an absolutely despicable human being. Hey Tinman, would you give up the Rockets 2 championships so Vernon's children could have a real father?
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So I take it that you are a human that has no problems? If so, you are the only one that I have ever heard of. Unless he is abusing his kids, no matter what is problems are, I still think every parent has a right to be with their kids. You mistake my point of the parent being able to better take care of their kids financially getting custody instead of the one needing money. That is assuming that both are otherwise equally normal. Everything in my post was NOT about Vernon Maxwell, if you bothered to really read it. I think anyone that pays child support got screwed, period...man or woman. I don't believe in anyone, man or woman, paying child support. Child support to me is spending quality time with your child...and no it should not be forced. But the opportunity to do so for those wanting to do it should be enforced and not hampered by financial restraints, that hurts the child if you really think about it. You are assuming that every person that can't pay child support because of their financial situation is a horrible person. Sounds like you might have had issues, but that is none of my business. A child has two parents regardless of if it was a one night stand or a family. That child still has a right to know and spend time with each parent regardless of what those parents intentions were for their own lives. That's the most important point I am making. Adding in financial obligations only hampers that. If one parent pays monthly for child to live with the other parent, if it is to support the child, how come when the child spends a month with the other parent in the summer, the other parent doesn't pay them child support for that month? Doesn't the parent keeping the child for that month deserve child support to under you accepted usage of the current system? Again, no...of course not. But are you saying that if a person can't make a child support payment that they should not have visitation rights? Who is that punishing exactly? How is that in the best interest of the child? If you think that doesn't happen, just go down to family court for a day and listen to the stories. Women and men both cheat on each other, leave each other or use each other. Neither group is more guilty or innocent than the other. The courts still even reward women with child support when they abuse, use, cheat or anything else to cause a relationship to end. If a woman can't take care of a child, then she should choose not to get pregnant. If she wants assurances, tell her to put it into a contract, like a prenup. No, but you insinuated that it is more important to make a monthly payment than it is to spend time with your kid. That is where I obviously disagree. I never suggested that every situation is the same, as a matter of fact, I made it clear that they are not. Kids hating their parents has nothing to do with child support payments. The kids never sees the money anyway in most cases. Kids that live with both parents can hate one or both parents. That has no bearing on the point I was making about child support. That's a whole seperate issue. It is you that is still stuck on only gold digger mom's getting child support. I am talking about all child support, even that paid by women to some men....it needs to be STOPPED! So ball players, politicians, pilots, people in the service, traveling salesmen, doctors that work 18 hours shifts, or anyone that has a career that has them traveling or being away from home a lot is not a good parent in your book? For your information, a ball player or the other people I mentioned have enough money to have their mom or another family member, or even a full time nanny to help take the greatest care of the kid. When another parent that may be there everyday could still be a bad parent, broke and can't even feed the kid without government forced assistance. The logical solution is to give both parents equal rights to the child. The courts are wrong now just like they have been wrong about numerous issues in the past. The courts destroy more families than make peace among families. The court is there to make money more than anything else these days. You should spend some time in family court to understand these facts! I don't care if he didn't pay his child support. I think child support should be illegal, so I don't really care about that. If he has no desire to spend time with his children, then he would be a deadbeat dad to me. But I don't see that is the case since he mentioned once that Kenny is like uncle Kenny to his kids...that speaks of someone that wants to spend time with his kids and does so when allowed to. If I was a millionaire and had to give a woman that was hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for a child, I would rebel and be pissed to. She should get off her lazy azz and work on her own. If she can't take care of herself and the kid, then she should give up custody because she is obviously not suited to the job. But the bigger point is why does anyone ever have to pay that much for child support? Everyone knows that it doesn't take that much to help out with the kids expenses. So the court is just rewarding her with a better lifestyle because she got knocked up by someone rich. That's ludicrous. You are quick to judge Vernon like you are a model human being that has never made mistakes. I doubt that is true. He obviously has spent time with his kids when he could, so to put him in jail because he has financial trouble is just a criminal act by the court system in my opinion. If he goes to jail for drugs, so be it. But putting him in jail for inability to make child support payments and justifying it because he has problems with drugs in the past, in your opinion, is not justice but just biased reactions. You can't fight a rigged legal system that says you owe child support when it should be an illegal act to force anyone to pay it anyway. The whole system needs to be gotten rid of....PERIOD! By the way, Im done with this dialogue.
