KILT Report: Ming's Representatives to Talk w/ Media at 4:30

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Any idea which reps? Is it this Eric Zahng guy that is suppose to be Yao's distant cusine or someone from the Shanghai Sharks?

 

give us updates!

 

Forget about this guy and start negotiation with Sharks ASAP if we are going to pick ming. NY, CHI already have the understanding that the offers made by Sharks are acceptable. Why not HOU?

 

Hey, I know we're all supposed to be diplomatic about this, but . . . allow me to say on behalf of everyone in the world who believes in individual liberty or socialism:

Screw the Shanghai Sharks.

You can be a libertarian and believe that Yao Ming should decide his own fate. You can be a communist and believe that the Chinese government, representing the Chinese people, should decide Yao Ming's fate. But the idea that the freakin' Shanghai Sharks, who represent neither Yao Ming's best interest nor the collective interest of the Chinese people, should decide Yao Ming's fate -- well, that's just old-fashioned (and very capitalist) indentured servitude.

I'm done now.

 

That remind's me: Does anyone here know how many years are left on Yao's contract (servitude) with the Sharks?

 

Shanghai Sharks, who represent neither Yao Ming's best interest nor the collective interest of the Chinese people, should decide Yao Ming's fate -- well, that's just old-fashioned (and very capitalist) indentured servitude.


Huh? Isn't Ming under contract with the Sharks? Of all the people involved in this, they should have more say than anyone. If Francis got up and said "I'm going to play for the Wizards", you better believe the Rockets would say "hell no, you're not. <I>You're under contract with *us*</I>".

Now, the Rockets might trade Francis to the Wizards, but that's the compensation. I would think the Sharks have every right to demand compensation for a player they developed and have under contract. Why should the Sharks be expected to just give up the best player in China, along with all the money he brings them, for nothing?

 

Good point.

 

Maybe we ought to start recognizing Chinese contracts about the time they start recognizing American patents and trademarks.

 

Another good point.

 

Oh, what time zone is Houston? Looks like this already happened, eh?

Anyone have a summary for us? And if it hasn't happened yet... a link for internet broadcast of Houston-area sports radio?

Gracias.

 

eh?

 

Will,

Let's break this down for a second and imagine a cultural clash in terminology.

The Shanghai Sharks currently have Yao under contract, no differently than Barcelona had Pau under contract. Pau could not get out of that contract by individual will, only monetary compensation. All the Japanese bball players are only here because Major League teams are not restricted in forking of millions and millions of dollars in signing rights. If we could, and were willing to fork over $11m, do you think the Sharks would accept?

What difference is there between a Japanese team holding a player hostage for $11m for negotiation rights and the Sharks wanted the same? Both sides merely have to figure out how to get it done since the NBA (and its glorious "<i>individual liberty or socialism</i>") restrict players the liberty from getting paid above a certain amount.

Compared to MLB, the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreements is a Socialist document that screws players of individual market value. We could probably say it is a prototypical socialist doctrine of sports that China is close to matching, and it is also an indentured servant contract regarding the rookie scale 5 yr requirement.

We merely want Yao to be our indentured servant. If this was baseball, he'd be a Knick...case closed. We only have a shot at him because we have regulations to redistribute talent wealth equally while treating rookies players as indentured servants for 5 yrs, too.

As an aside, a year or so ago there was a despute between two CBA teams who had rights to a player. You know what happened, that player went with the team he wanted to play with and sued the other. That was a landmark law suit in China sports.

 

I guess the 'talk' wasn't very interesting if nobody filled us in. Was it that uninformative?

 

C'mon. I find it hard to believe that Pau signed his deal with Barcelona in circumstances anything like those in which Yao signed his deal with the Sharks. I recall reading somewhere that they had Yao's balls in a vise and squeezed.

the NBA (and its glorious "<i>individual liberty or socialism</i>") restrict players the liberty from getting paid above a certain amount.

Yeah. How many millions a year is that amount now? And how many years would Yao have to play at his current salary in order to make the same amount?

Compared to MLB, the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreements is a Socialist document that screws players of individual market value. We could probably say it is a prototypical socialist doctrine of sports that China is close to matching, and it is also an indentured servant contract regarding the rookie scale 5 yr requirement.

True, the Rookie scale is lower. Still, it's some fat multiple of the ball-squeezing contract he's stuck with in Shanghai.

P.S. Try to imagine the Rockets declaring that they speak for Steve Francis and that Francis's cousin doesn't.

 

P.S. Try to imagine the Rockets declaring that they speak for Steve Francis and that Francis's cousin doesn't.

Try to imagine Francis negotiating the details of a trade to get him to Washington. The Rockets DO speak for Francis when it comes to who he plays for.

 

Not only can I imagine this, but there's a good chance I'm not imagining it.

 

Anyone else suspect Yao was Shanghai'd by the Sharks, not really having much of a choice in the matter?

 

So...uhh... back on topic. Did anyone listen to the report this thread was started about? What was said?