Three way tie among us, POR, SA, 50-28. We win tie breaker over POR, Spurs have it over us and POR have it over Spurs. NBA.com and ESPN: 3 SA 4 HOU 5 POR Yahoo 3 POR 4 HOU 5 SA Which one is right? Or is there a right way to rank the three? What if this is the way 3 teams end the season.
I heard division record is the first tiebreaker. W and POR have one less division game played than the Spurs at the moment, the Spurs are 9-6, we are 8-6 and POR is 9-5 so the blazers are actually in the best shape if these 3 teams happen to be tied at the end. Again, this is from what I heard is a new tiebreaker rule this year from Adam Wexler on 610.
I don't think that will be considerd a three way tie, but rather two two ways. First they will determine the division winner between Houston and SA. As a two way that will be head to head. The loser of that will then go against Portland and again head to head will rule. Say for example New Orleans snuck up and won our division outright, then it would be a three way between us, Sa and Portland.
According to nba.com's playoff tie breaker division leader are only given top 4 seed. It doesn't affect other tiebreakers. http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html Rule c(1)(b) When a tie must be broken to determine a division winner, the results of the tie-break shall be used to determine only the division winner and its playoff position, not any other playoff position(s). Therefore because portland and houston are tied in the 3 team head to head, SA is last in the rankings. Then portland and houston go head to head tie break and we win because of a 2-1 head to head advantage, but SA gets the division because of division record. So its 3. Rockets 4. Spurs (no HA but division leader) 5. Blazers (HA in 1st round)
Problem with that is if SA wins the tiebreak for the division, then as division leader they are ahead of Houston and Portland in any tiebreak scenario. It is: 3. Spurs 4. Rockets 5. Portland
This is according to CBS Sports: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/7164305 Determining Ties for Playoff Position In order to break a tie for playoff positions, if one exists at the end of the regular season, the following criteria will be utilized in the order set forth: TWO-WAY TIES 1. Results of games against each other. 2. Better winning percentage within own division (only if tied teams are in same division). 3. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. 4. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 5. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 6. Better point differential between offense and defense. MORE THAN TWO TEAMS TIED 1. If applicable, division champions must be determined first. 2. Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams. 3. Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in same division). 4. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. 5. Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including team that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). 6. Best point differential between offense and defense. Note: If a multiple team tie is reduced to a two-team tie at any point using the above criteria, the two-team tie will be resolved in accordance with the existing two-team tie procedure.
they dont have that rule anymore on the nba.com playoff pictures. http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html#tbb they have the rule c(1)(b) When a tie must be broken to determine a division winner, the results of the tie-break shall be used to determine only the division winner and its playoff position, not any other playoff position(s). The first part of that rule refers to: Teams 1 to 4 in each conference are the three division winners and the team with the next best regular-season record, with the seeding of these four teams determined by regular-season record. The playoffs seedings of Teams 5 to 8 are based upon regular-season record. Ties are broken pursuant to the rules set forth below. So assign SA a top 4 seed and then move to tiebreaker. THe 2nd part of c(1)(b) means division winner doesnt matter in any other playoff positiion(s). I think they've changed this very recently.
I now believe based on looking at all the teams' schedule...that the Hornets will be seeded at #8!! They're horrible and keep on losing. Their schedule are tough. Dallas will be seated #6. I see Dallas winning 3 more which give them 50wins. Jazz will be seated #7. I see Jazz winning 2 or 3 more which also give them 49 or 50wins. The important game is at Spurs. If they lose that game, they're dropping to #7. I don't see the Blazers drop to #6 or #7 based on their schedule and record so far. Don't see Denver losing the #2 spot. We're kind of in a tough situation...there will be a game between the Jazz and the Spurs...who should we cheer for?? If we cheer for the Jazz to lose, then the Spurs could grab #3 spot from us. On the other hands if we cheer for the Jazz to win, we could get #3 spot and face them as the #6 spot. I would rather cheer for the Jazz to lose so they drop to #7. And we could possible still get #3 and face Dallas..which is a better opponent. If i have to predict...i would say we will face Dallas in Round 1 as #3 vs #6.
There's the fallacy in your logic. The Spurs are tied in record, head to head, divisional record, and conference record, but the rockets win the 5th tiebreaker (record against Western Conference playoff teams).
I am pulling for the Jazz to win that game. A Southwest Division title means something. It'll mean the 3 seed most likely, although it could mean the 2 seed or the 4 seed.
http://www.nba.com/statistics/playoff_picture.html (1) Spurs 2-2, Rockets 2-2 (2) Spurs 9-6, Rockets 8-6 3. Spurs (.428, but are division winners over Rockets) 4. Rockets (.571) 5. Blazers (.500)
It says the tie breaker will determine division winner and its playoff position. The not any other tiebreakers part is referring to if SA is tied with any other teams. We lose the division to SA so they must be ahead of us, and we have the tiebreaker over Portland. So it has to be SA, Houston, Portland.
That only says to determine the division leader. It does NOT say to give the division leader the tie break. I know they had that rule before, but they have since taken it off of that website. Teams 1 to 4 in each conference are the three division winners and the team with the next best regular-season record, with the seeding of these four teams determined by regular-season record. The playoffs seedings of Teams 5 to 8 are based upon regular-season record. Ties are broken pursuant to the rules set forth below. Seeding of the 1-4 are determined by regular season record. Then the ties are broken using the rules below. no where in the tie breaker rules a/b/c do they say to give the division leader the higher seed. They used to, but now they don't.
I am looking at the standings right now and we will most likely end up facing either Spurs, Blazers, or Hornets. I cannot believe I am saying this, but the Rockets might actually get out of the 1st round. What makes my heart skips is that this is actually happening without McGrady. Stop and think about it. All the mocks and laughs and "what ifs"...but this might actually happen. McGrady's team advances without McGrady. I still don't know what to say about that. It's just so strange. Really, stop and think about it. IT MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN. The Spurs should tank it and save Tim Duncan. Blazers, we should be able to put away in 6. The Hornets, 5 or 6. This is making me nervous.
After re-analyzing the schedule of the teams, i think it's possible that the Rockets can end up at the #2 spot. Why do i say that?? Well, look the Denver's schedule...they have to play @Lakers and @Blazers...i don't see them winning both. So they will get just 1 more win against a crappy team on their schedule which give them 54 total wins. The Rockets MUST win all 4 games and that also give them 54 wins. They have tied-breaker over Denver so they will get #2 seed. It is possible for them to win all 4 games with the exception of the Dallas game...which i think again possible if they know they're getting the #2 seed by beating Dallas in their last game and will pour their heart out in that game. As far as the Spurs, I don't see them winning all 4 games.
