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Has anyone watched old Oscar Roberston games?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by durvasa, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. A_3PO

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    The Warriors were up more than 20 when the 3rd quarter ended. That's one reason the 4th quarter was such a complete joke as far as being a real competition.
     
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    I can vouch for this. A lot analysts out there were saying KB's 81 was waay better than Wilt's 100 because of reasons above.
     
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    Yeah but in the 4th it got back to 10-15 points until 2-3 minutes left.
    Similar to the raptors game.
     
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    Give me a break! It was nothing at all like the Raptors game. Not in the slightest. I watched Kobe's game in it's entirety. The Raptors were up 14 at halftime. They were within 4 points midway through the 4th quarter. Totally different from the freakshow in Philadelphia with it's game-stopping fouling on both sides to help/hurt Wilt in his quest for 100. Together, both teams totaled 93 FTs and 232 FG attempts. I can't imagine how long it took to finish.
     
  5. durvasa

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    I think in 1962, the lane wasn't as wide which would make it easier for a center to score a ton of points. Also, any foul -- regardless of whether it was in the act of shooting -- would put a player on the line. You got one shot at the line for today's "non-shooting foul". And if it was in the act of shooting, I believe it was 3 to make 2. From the few games I've seen, they seemed much less lenient in calling offensive goal tending as well. Really, Wilt had an advantage back then with the rules, and I guess that's why they eventually changed.
     
  6. max14

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    I meant it's the same that it was 10-15 points game with 2-3 minutes left.
    It was a comfortable win, not "long decided".
     
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    I think that was when you were in the penalty.
     
  8. A_3PO

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    OK, whatever. The games were nothing like each other however you slice it. The Warriors game was all about Wilt and the competitive aspect of who was going to win completely disappeared way before it was finished. The last quarter was a freak show. Not so with the Lakers and Raptors.
     
  9. max14

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    True but Kobe also didn't score 100.
    If you take away the 3s he probably scored 75.
    And if you are going the competition route what about 61 points in the Finals ? or Pistol Pete 68 points against NBA champions. With no 3s. Were those better scoring games.
    Fact is 100 is 100 and it would be lots of excitement to have seen videos of it.
    From many people witnessed that game they thought it was lots of fun, let's not dub it as a boring freak show.
     
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    It WAS a freak show. Wilt getting triple figures was the only redeeming thing about the game. If he had scored 93, it wouldn't have been nearly as big a deal.

    Having it on tape would be great because everyone could see it for what it was, which would be an almost unwatchable tape. Of course, the people at the game got to witness history, so it was very exciting for them. The last minute or so when Wilt had 98 and was going for 100 was VERY dramatic. After he got 90 the crowd was totally lasered on him getting the triple. But most people today have no idea about the details of the game discussed in this thread. IMO, the fact it is NOT on tape helps inflate Wilt's accomplishment because these details are known by few. If everyone saw how it happened, the whole thing would be somewhat diminished.

    Pistol Pete's game was amazing, especially since most of his shots were jumpers with some trick shots mixed in. A thing of beauty.
     
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    Most of yall are forgeting that comparing two eras is exclusive. In a relative mindset, the Big O was just as badass or more than LBJ. It's all relative. Of course LBJ getting sent back in time would have him probably averaging a quintuple double. But at the development stage the game was at in the old days, the stuff Big O and Wilt did was amazing. Once again, keep it all relative and you will be able to appreciate the old days. Hakeem would be smoking Wilt or Russell if he were to match up against them. I'm sure even Kelvin Cato could hold his own against Wilt in a head to head matchup (ok maybe not Cato but you get what I'm saying).
     
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    But even if you just consider what they did relative to their era, I don't think Oscar Robertson's triple double season is as impressive as what LeBron is doing this year. LeBron appears to grab a higher percentage of available rebounds, assist on a higher percentage of his teammate's baskets, and score on a higher percentage of the game's possessions. The game has just slowed down so much compared to that time, the raw numbers don't appear as impressive. But in terms of dominating the game, I'd have to say what LeBron is doing seems more impressive.
     
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    If your father taught Oscar in high school, are you old enough to have been a Ft. Wayne Pistons fan?
     
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    Oscar should be compared to Jordan & Magic, not LeBron. At 6-5, he was a guard! :eek: At that time, they wanted forwards to be 6-3 to 6-8 and centers 6-8 or taller. A 6-5 guard then was comparable to Magic being a 6-8 point guard when he came into the NBA.
     
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    Back then the 1 shot foul was SOP, much like Pop's "Hack-A-Shaq" today. Wilt's height led to offensive goaltending rules changes. The NCAA even tried the "no dunking" rule during Lew Alcender's days at UCLA.
     
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    If I recall correctly, from what I've heard this game was even more impressive because Pistol Pete fouled out on a BS charge call (Dick Baveta?) and could have scored even more.
     
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    OUCH! :( You know how to hurt a guy. No, I'm not that old. I was born in the early 60s.

    There was very little time left when he fouled out.
     
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    I was very fortunate to see him play live.
     
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    Well take it by your terms, his teammates sucked so bad and he STILL got 10 assists per game. At 6-5, he grabbed 10 boards per game...that's pretty damn impressive as a stat by itself. But we're talkin a triple double average.
     

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