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Coach Adleman's decision on PG rotation last night ???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketSolid, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. RocketSolid

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    Last night, at the 3 minutes mark to end of game, Lowry had been playing great as PG to control tempo of the game to Rockets' Favor, then out of nowhere, Adleman called a time out and sub him out with Brooks.

    Then as if Adleman has planned it all out, Brooks hit that open trey off the pick. I mean if Brooks' shot didnot go in, I would be fcking mad at him.

    However, how many of you, like me, have been questioning RA's coaching decision late at game?
     
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  2. RocketSolid

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    BTW, so excited to become MEMBER in clutch. So congrats to myself.

    GO ROCKETS!
     
  3. shortfuse3

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    i think adelman has a great feel when to sub a player in and out. like you said brooks hit a clutch trey right as he got in. he probably felt we needed more scoring from the perimeter at that point.

    adelman is excellent at managing our point guard minutes. when brooks makes 2 bad plays or so in the first quarter, u know lowry will be coming in earlier, and when lowry isn't doing so well, brooks will come back in. if brooks is having trouble defensively, lowry will play most of the 4th. altogher adelman does a great job subsituting.
     
  4. SwoLy-D

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    Goes in POST-GAME analysis.

    The decisions in the last few minutes are decided by how much of a margin we have over the opponent, and how well each of those players has been shooting free throws. I see nothing wrong with adding Brooks AND Lowry together to preserve the lead when the opposing team fouls to get the ball back. I think you might be looking too deep into these issues with Adelman.

    Surely, you'd want Yao out to prevent injuries and to put Hayes in there for defensive purposes, but you also need ball handlers like the two point guards to maintain the possession and to aid in trapping and fouling in the last couple of minutes. :cool:

    I don't know if YOU noticed, but KL and AB were in there at the end. Rarely will you see both point guards on the court during the game.

    FYI, it's Adelman. :eek:
     
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  5. RocketSolid

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    Ok, i have to disagree. AB FTs was terribly off last night. He missed both on previous trip. He is short and defense liability. And his quick 3 shot could be turn of the game there.
     
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    Swoly-D.

    Sorry for double replying this.


    You mention something about points management.
    However, at the time, I recalled we only led by 8. If Brooks quick 3 did not go in, and Blazers scored on the transition, that's 4 points differential there.
     
  7. Shaud

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    Look around this board for the last 2 or 3 pages. You will see that your opinion is pretty popular with the rest of the board.
     
  8. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Personally, when the season isn't on the line, and the game is going well, I'd rather close with Brooks. AB needs to learn how to run this team, he needs to learn how to keep everything on cruise control near the end. We have issues closing out the 4th quarter, and it's primarily AB's job to watch the pace and adjust accordingly on offense. If he's gonna run this team, set the offense, he needs more and more 4th quarter experience. True, Lowry was doing an amazing job, BUT! we aren't looking in the Lowry direction, we are Brooksified. This game wasn't big, and even if we lost it it wouldn't have turned the tide that majorly. Standings are pretty much set, and we already got our playoff tickets punched. This was a cherry on top game, and it gave Brooks the necessary experience he needs to level up. Ultimately, I think AB needs to close out more games, get a better feel of it. Good job RA.
     
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    No need to apologize, sir. That's cool.

    But... you're still just trying to recall how it all went, when you can see the PLAY BY PLAY.
    See http://www.nba.com/games/20090405/PORHOU/playbyplay.html, please.

    We led by 11 at the 1:42 4th quarter mark after Outlaw's shot [POR 84-95], then Brooks came in for SCOLA to secure the possessions because the Blazers would FOUL, and then made the 3-pointer.

    Don't argue the play-by-play, man! :p

    Also, don't argue with ME!

    Sincerely,
    [​IMG]Rick "Death-Stare" Adelman

    :D
     
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    I agree. Adelman knows that his starting point is just a second year guy who needs a lot of seasoning. While Lowry only has one more year under his built, you can tell it makes a difference. Some of the late insertions of Brooks into games, when Lowry seemed like the obvious choice, has been to get Brooks that experience closing them out. And he certainly needs it. In the playoffs, that will all go by the board and he'll put in who he thinks will close the game out with a win.

    Not always hard to know. That's why coaches like Adelman get the big bucks, and his record speaks for itself.
     
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    Come on Swoly-D, just got his member status and you want to buck him off his high horse!!

    Adelman has used the the combo really well. If brooks is having an off night lowry always steps up, vice versa, i love it!
     
  12. Dave_78

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    The more I watch Brooks the more I worry. Adelman can give him all the "educational minutes" he wants but it isn't going to help much. Brooks is going to be the downfall of this team in the playoffs. I think management really is looking to next season and beyond because they had to know Brooks isn't the guy this year.
     
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    Brooks isn't why we are going to get far in the playoffs (if we do). It will be Scola, Yao, Artest (and Battier to a lesser extent). It is possible for a team to do well in the playoffs with one or two weak links. As long as they can play within their role, as long as teams aren't coming off them to double every play, I don't think its going to be a problem.

    Alston is the starting PG for the Magic and they are competing for 2nd best record in the East, and they have had roughly the same record as with Jameer. I'm not saying Alston is the reason they are good, but he isn't the reason they aren't good.
     
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    Congrats self. You created a thread that was unanimously voted as terrible. I think you should go back to being a rookie for six more months, but like I trust Adelman to make the wise decision on who to play at point in the final minutes, I also trust the Clutchfans staff to make a great decision on your status.
     
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    That's the key. Brooks hit the three. I suspect Adelman might've seen something that you didn't
     
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    heheh *pats his on back*
     
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    Adeeman's decision making on PGs was one of the best ones. He put Lowry for long enough to maintain the team chemistry, and put Brooks in the last min because he is fast, can take the time off. The most important thing is that he got mad for one time last night.
     
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    Brooks needs to learn.
     
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    1. What if Rick did plan that out?

    2. If Brooks didn't make it? He did. (I would say end of story... but...) Also, he didn't just force that shot. He was open; teammates moved the ball to the open man.
     
  20. fuzzy88

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    I thought Adelman did a much better job last night on subbing, particularly on Yao, but also for others.

    Subbing Lowry out for Brooks was a good idea then, as it changed the game a bit, confusing the opponents at the last couple of minutes, and it was obvious that Lowry was getting really tired (he had played from 2nd quarter all the way to almost the end of 4th).

    His subbing of Yao was great last night, and I think that's probably something he should keep consistent, regardless of matchups. Play Yao for 1st quarter, then take him out part of 2nd, then rest him from late 3rd to mid 4th. This way, he would be kept fresh for the most important part of the game, starting, late 1st half, and late 4th.

    Subbing in Hayes a couple of times was brilliant last night, disrupting Aldridge sufficiently to limit his damage and rhythm (although the 1st time was more due to Scola's foul trouble).

    All in all, RA did a great job yesterday. He did a terrible job at LA though.
     

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