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An arab's take on Hamas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Franchise2001, Mar 25, 2009.

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  1. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    With all the threads about Israeli war crimes, I think we need to shed some light on the terrorists they are fighting. Not only are they shooting Rockets at children in Israel, they are murdering their own people and political enemies.

    And gotta love this:

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  2. Ari

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    So we do have tit-for-tat in the Debate and Discussion forum? This could get interesting :D
     
  3. Ari

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    I propose we post nothing but videos and counter videos in this thread. I am willing to bet we can go on doing that for the next couple of years without running out of material.
     
  4. Oski2005

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    So to stop Hamas from teaching kids to kill Jews, we have to let them commit war crimes that kill kids and their parents. Certainly, giving them more reason to hate is the only course of action.

    Standing on the moral high ground isn't easy and it isn't always safe.
     
  5. God's Son

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    why is that? why do we need to shed light on terrorists? do u think people dont know what terrorists are all about? i think the avg american has a pretty good idea about that

    u may not realize it but that sentence of urs justifies committing war crimes cause ur fighting a terrorist group. it means u admit that israel is guilty of war crimes

    also: jewish? :D iam trying to make this catch on like the hispanic thing
     
  6. God's Son

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    exactly! iam not sure what his point was other than hes frustrated with the flack israel is taking for its admitted war crimes and wants to deflect attention

    iam sure poster is jewish so hes just sensitive about all negative attention and wants to change subject
     
  7. ChrisBosh

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    The first video can be about anything, the guy who is doing the commentary has some nice videos making ***** up about the koran. So I really question his accusation about what's going on in that video. BTW who says he's even Arab? Youtube isn;t the best place to do research.....
     
  8. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    He says he's an arab. You can clearly tell he has a pro-Israel slant when you listen to his argument about "there was no such country named Palestine" (I personally find this argument to be irrelevant). You know there are Christian arabs.

    This wasn't meant to be a tit-for-tat sort of thread. Other than the discussion of how Hamas treats Palestinians. We know for a fact that they fired rockets from locations filled with women and children. They fire from the middle of friggin refugee camps.

    Yes, I am Jewish. Do I support everything Israel has done? Hell no. However, there has been a continuous dog pile on Israel, while completely forgetting about the atrocities their enemy has committed.

    And for Ari:

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  9. Franchise2001

    Franchise2001 Contributing Member

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    We need to shed light on them because Hamas claims to be the savior of the Palestinian people while fighting the jews... oops I mean zionists.

    They are not the saviors of Palestinians, they are bloodthirsty criminals who rose to power in the vacuum that Arafat's death created.

    Hamas killing Fatah members: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/hamas-gangs-kill-fatah-members-gaza

    Nothing justifies committing a war crime. Those who committed the crimes should be tried.

    So God's Son... do you see Hamas as heroes?
     
  10. Kwame

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    Are you going to make an appearance in the Israeli war crimes thread?
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    This thread is a disgrace to those who love humans and humanity. I understand that it's difficult for someone from the Jewish religion to focus more on civilian casualties than corrupt governments, but let's try to maintain some focus here.

    We are all worried about all the humans/civillians that died and will die unfortunately.

    Let's not resort to name-calling. Let's not resort to poor logic.

    1) An Arab is not necessarily a Muslims and a Muslim is not necessarily an Arab.

    2) Hamas was not elected by all or the majority of Arabs. Not even close.

    3) Hamas was not elected by all or the majority of Muslims. Not even close. (In fact, I don't believe they were truly elected at all)

    4) It is easy to indoctrinate and corrupt teenagers and children when there is no oversight of schools, no security, and no parents because the country's infrastructure is demolished and the economy destroyed.

    5) It is easy to indoctrinate and corrupt the starving, orphaned and widowed whom don't have family or schools or money or anything. They have no guidance other than what's there and they are (based on statistics) probably going to die soon.

    6) 1 Muslims life is not worth more than 1 Jewish life. All lives are equal. Every life is a loss to humanity. Islam states that (paraphrasing) every human who is killed, the killer will be seen/judged to have killed all humans. This is the value of a life, and absolutely no one sits above this. Don't be irritating and tell me that it applies to Hamas as well - OFCOURSE it applies to Hamas as well. EVERY life. EVERY human that died is a GIANT LOSS. Stop losing view of that.
     
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    Well, obviously it's the best thing to do because then the kids won't be able to hate Jews and grow up to be terrorists. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm Palestinian, and I'm with you Franchise. Hamas is a bigger threat to the Palestinians (Christian or Muslim) than Israel could ever be.
     
  14. eckostylez

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    Where do you honestly believe Hamas received there funding from in the 90's? Al-Mujamma al-Islami was a charity front created by Ahmed Yassin, which happened to be legally registered in the state of Israel. Funding from the Israeli government to divide support for Arafat's PLO.

    It's not different than American funding of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan against the Soviets. It's called blowback.
     
  15. esteban

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    In the beginning of the video the narrator says" Many people said we should praise and support Hamas, including some dummy Western who don't know what they're talking about and said we should support Hamas"

    I think he is talking about the 90% + of you lefties on this board, LOL!
     
  16. ellipsoid

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    um.. yes..youtube videos and an arab version of the Barney show really prove a point... :rolleyes:
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This is just sickening.......

    DD
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm not aware of anyone on this board supporting Hamas.
     

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