Our proglem is not center, which = No Ming

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P.S.: You can't really trade Cato to the Wolves and then still have him in the lineup .

 

If we had a realistic chance at KG sure. But Minnesota isnt stupid.

I disagree on your assessment of Yao anyway. All reports say he has competitive fire and a sweet stroke. For a guy 7'5'' that's a great asset.

You say he lacks post moves. I say he never had to learn them because he was so much taller and bigger than his competition and CD is the master at teaching them.

You say his wingspan is too small to block shots and play good defense. I say his height makes up for that and more.

You say the Chinese government will make his life and that of the team drafting him a living hell. I say it's in China's best interest to let Yao play in the NBA as quickly as possible.

You say there are too many risks for Ming to be the first pick. I say you win championships by taking risks.

You say avoid Yao and draft or trade for someone else. I say draft Yao and watch us reap the rewards in the near future.

 

I say you've already made up your mind and are not looking at Yao objectively.

I say the Rockets will be better off if they trade the pick.

 

Garnett is not going to be a Rocket. It sucks to say, but that just isn't going to happen. Getting this no 1 pick is not that valuable. It will not pry a franchise player from any team and that includes shaq, koby, Duncan, ect.

I say trade the pick if it can get us something of real worth only.

 

And you are being objective and haven't made up your mind?

Seriously...if you think they should trade the pick and are bashing someone else, then why not post your reasoning behind the situation? It's an open forum, but at least make yourself sound reasonable.

 

I think that if you looked around it would seem like everyone is an expert on Ming.

The truth is that nobody knows anything. Unlike college players, nobody has really seen the foreign players play before.

Somebody says the Ming has a sweet shot. They don't really know that. They read it somewhere. Somebody says Ming doesn't have a low post game and prefers jump shots. The haven't seen him play. They don't really know.

The truth is that alot of people around here are hyping up Ming like their experts. The act like the've actually seen him play and that there is no way he'll be a bust. But, almost EVERYTHING know's about Ming comes from ESPN, or CNNSI or similar sources. Nobody has made an actual evaluation by watching him play.

That said, that just means to me that there are alot of questions surrounding him which make him far from from a sure thing, regarless of the problems with the Chinese Gov't. I would feel alot more comfortable if somehow the Rockets arranged a private workout for Ming. It seems that they can't evaluate him completely just by just the Chicago workout alone.

Because of this I am far from sold on Ming. Yes, sometimes you have to take risks. But I think that all the unknowns surrounding Ming make him too much of a risk to take at #1.

 

I know this is only my second post, and I don't know how much actual play other people have seen, but I have seen a couple of Ming's games in the CBA online and to be particularly honest, most teams in the NCAA didn't match up to Yao Ming's team, which is not "solid" evidence because its based on my opinion. From what I've seen of Yao's play, Yao is an incredible player who can definitely shoot (I saw a variety of post, outside, and fadeaways connected at approximately 80%(obviously being the CBA it probably won't be so high in the NBA but regardless an impressive shooting performance), no one dared to take the ball and shoot within 3 yards of Yao unless his back was turned to the player (happened only once) most times forcing the offense to drive kick out and settle for some bad threes, he grabbed rebounds everywhere and would sometimes hustle to grab rebounds anyone else probably couldn't get (once jumped and grabbed a board horizontally over defender's heads), and run up and down the floor relatively smoothly. The distinctive flaw I saw in his game was his upper body strength, but he overcame this quite well (though it looked ugly at times) and would drain shots regardless of physical play. He played quite intelligently and didn't jump for fakes, but would wait for the ball to leave the shooter's hands to block it. Coupling this with the fact that he has stuffed prime NBA competition (Vince Carter and Alonzo Mourning), I am thoroughly convinced of his value. I completely agree with your Chinese Gov. problems, but I also feel that the risk of having Ming come back to haunt us is far greater than the risk of picking him. I think he will eventually find his way into the NBA regardless, and from what I've seen (though not "live" still valid from it being a full game), I would hate for the rockets to pass him up.


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Welcome Fuzzybear, Yes I agree Ming is just too much to pass up. His talent and size is just so rare. Not to mention just the fact that If we did trade him I would be mad knowing that the other team would have an instant 1.4 billion fans and close to complete international media attention aswell as national. And he's already with Nike so his commercial will be played nonstop during games since China is the largest Athletics/Shoes market in the world. By the way I think it was Vince Cater and Gary Payton that got stuff by Ming in the Olympics, and that was just in the first 5mins of the game before he got benched.

 

Some of us are to hung up on number of fans. Fans do not win games the player does. If Ming can't be here for summer leagues and training camp that is not a good situtation.

 

We all know the rockets backcourt isn';t the best defensive backcourt of the nba, they need a big man who can help them out and block shots, and think of Ming and Griffin nexzt to each other for 10 years to come, the rockets would have a great shot blockong team. A player that puts up numbers like Ming did is a good player, even if the china leage isn't good, he played games when he didn't mis 1 shot. And shot more than 15 times, that is just amazing, especially if it is true that he likes to shoot jumpers. i say draft Ming he is the answer to our problems. and with the 15'th pick a sf.

We will have 3 potential all stars. francis Griffin Ming.

WELCOME YAO TO HOUSTON. BRING US A CHAMPIONSHIP.