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Rocket champs worst in NBA history of last 15 years?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Nikos, May 15, 2002.

  1. Nikos

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    Do you people feel that the Rockets two titles 93-94, and 94-95 the weakest championship teams in the last 15 years in the NBA. Many people seem to think all the recent Laker champs could beat them? So I guess they must be the worst or at the very bottom of all NBA champs the past 15 years?

    Personally I feel the Lakers of now are the worst champs in the past 15 years.....but Im willing to bet 80% of you put them above the Rocks titles and put them close to top 5 of the past 15 NBA champs (year wise).

    I dont understand why...considering the Lakers have not beat one team in the playoffs that has had an ALL NBA player with solid role players who could hit clutch shots and had some sort of championship or deep playoff experience....no teams they have beaten have had more than 1 or 2 years together as a team to gain mental toughness as a unit. yet everyone seems to think they are so dominant..I dont understand why?

    Shaq and Kobe, ok, but the best duo they have ever beaten is Iverson and Mutumbo. Do you really feel Iverson and Mutumbo were better than Hakeem-Drexler? Personally Hakeem and Drexler 95 were a better duo than any duo the Lakers have ever beaten in the playoffs, and the support they had was just as good if not better than any support players the Lakers have ever faced.

    Just my opinion, but it baffles my mind to see so many people praise the Lakers as if they would kill the Rocks champsipnship teams.

    I dont understand, its like they let the present cloud their judgement.....I just dont see why....
     
  2. jevjnd

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    People will talk about these Laker teams the same way in a few years.
     
  3. Deckard

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    No... this debate has been done here many times, but what really gets me is that you think most folks here would agree with that premise. I don't.
     
  4. Nikos

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    Well I was being sarcastic, cause I know that about 30-40% would agree, and probably more than before considering how GREAT KOBE has been in the clutch nowadays :rolleyes: IMO its a bunch of horseshyt. I dont think the Lake of now would beat the Rocks of 95.

    But some people will go on and on of how clutch Kobe is and how dominant Shaq is......against the GREAT COMPETETION of the NBA nowadays. I mean they beat al these mentally weak teams whos leader are barely half of what Hakeem 95 was, yet they are praised like MJ's Bulls.

    Just aggrevates me...yes they are the best in the league now, but the competetion is just starting to improve........JUST STARTING....:rolleyes:
     
  5. Deckard

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    OK, I get it now. You have a good point about the competition (or lack of it!).:p
     
  6. OverRRated

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    Personally, I'd take the Laker's over the Rockets.

    I love Hakeem and think he's the greatest center of all time, but I think the current Shaq(minus toe injury), is just as dominate.
    And Kobe is better than Clyde....fact for me, but y'all can take it as an opinion. ;)

    Another reason I'd take them over the Rockets is that it doesn't matter who the Lakers would play.........unlike the Rockets with their achilles heel.....the Sonics.
     
  7. Jared Novak

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    How in the hell can there be such a thing as the worst champ? The 1994-1995 squad beat some of the most dominant teams of the regular season. I guarantee you if the Magic had won, all we would be hearing is how great Shaq became, and how the torch was passed from Hakeem to Shaq, blah, blah, blah, bull****. No one ever gives any credit to the Rockets, so I say to hell with any sports publication that lists the Rockets as the "worst" champions. They won it fair and square, they fought hard and perservered to become back-to-back champs.

    And for those who say X team would have beaten Y team and such nonsense thats what video games and absurd ESPN games of the century are for. Its comparing oranges and apples. Its like saying well the Celtics of the 60's were great, but the early 90's Bulls' teams would've given them a run for their money.
     
  8. Sane

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    They won't be talking the same way about the Lakers in a few years because the Lakers will still be contending, and dominating, in the NBA.


    Their role players are a bit better than ours though. Fisher, Horry, Fox, George, Medvedenko, Hunter.

    It could be a perfect matchup though. I don't know how Hakeem would hold up against Shaq. Shaq is a much better player now than he was then, minus the toe problem.


    Personally, I think the worst Champions were the Spurs. They just didn't hit me as the best team in the NBA.
     
  9. X-PAC

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    The idea that a championship team could be bad is r****ded. Someone has to win the championship, am I wrong? How could the Rockets make the top of this when they repeated proving this was no fluke? In my opinion the Rockets were one of the strongest to withstand such odds tossed their way in both years. I strongly feel if the Lakers had such a run ESPN wouldn't consider them the worst at all. ESPN needs to find a better way for their staff to spend their time than taking the piss out of what franchises have accomplished. You can't label a championship team bad; they are the best at what they do at least for that season. Trying to take away from that is low. Then again we're talking ESPN here...
     
  10. dc rock

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    I dont know if they can be called champions , but the Spurs are probably the worst in the past 15 years, if not ever. They couldnt even get out of the first round the following year!!!
     
  11. TheFreak

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    You do know Duncan didn't play in that round, right? Or maybe you were too young to remember that...
     
  12. The Cat

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    Umm, dc, don't you think Finals MVP Tim Duncan being out for the season had something to do with that? :rolleyes:

    The Spurs absolutely torched the entire NBA that postseason to a 15-2 record and a championship, topped only by the Lakers of last season. There aren't many teams ever that could've beaten that team.

    Personally, I think the worst Champions were the Spurs. They just didn't hit me as the best team in the NBA.

    If a 15-2 postseason record won't make you believe, I don't know what would...
     
  13. djteknokid

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    just two words...

    WHO CARES?
     
  14. dc rock

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    Yeah , i can barely remember being 22 :rolleyes:

    How about refraining from the personal attacks, because youre the one who sounds very immature
     
  15. dc rock

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    Uhm the cat, cant ''championship'' teams find a way to win? especially against a poor phoenix suns team in the first round?
     
  16. Sonny

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    93-95 Rockets vs 99-Present Lakers

    I will take whichever team has Robert Horry on it! :D
     
  17. TheFreak

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    Sorry.....I guess with the Democrats thing and the Laker bandwagoning, I figured you were just a kid. My bad. ;)
     
  18. dc rock

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    Laker bandwagoning? uhm no, Ive been a fan of the lakers since the 80's , my two favorite players of all time our Hakeem Olajuwon and James Worthy. I dont know where you're getting that from . I dont bandwagon
     
  19. The Cat

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    The Spurs aren't a championship team without Tim Duncan.

    Do you seriously think the 93-94 Rockets without Hakeem Olajuwon are still a top 4 team in the entire Western Conference? If you do, you're completely delusional.
     
  20. Plowman

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    I had a friend of mine who used to be serious when he said the Rockets were the weakest team to win the title.I find it humorous and infuriating at the same time.Matchups go a long way in deciding the outcome of a series...and when it came to...say the Bulls,the Rockets owned them in the regular season.Reason,being they had no interior game to deal w/us..and we could always toss Vernon on M.J.Maybe we would be a little more legitimate if we had the chance to deal w/ the Bulls.:rolleyes:
    On the Lakers,I don't care what era you put them in.That is a great team out there.They turn up the team's defensive intensity and get the stops when they need it.They have two GO TO guys like noone else that can do it on the other end in prime time plus the aformentioned complimentary players.The Lakers often play to the level of the competition.When you consider that they are something like 1-7 against the spread(during this years playoffs),and all those games that they don't cover end up being within 1 or 1 1/2 of the number(despite the nagging injuries),it says the Lakers can pretty much do whatever they want.
    I love the Rockets,but we are watching a dynasty in progress.
     

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