even if he does at times, that doesn't make him an "average" center. either all the other teams are r****ded in trying to double and stop an "average" center, or there is something broken in the original claim that yao is merely "average". what do you think? which one is it?
I didn't say he was an average center. I was just trying to explain why he gets double teamed more than anyone... because against him, it's most effective.
Just from me observing last night, he had a tough time establishing position in the 4th qtr and wasn't ready half the time when the pass was thrown to him because he was still jostling for position. A few resulted in turnovers, some he got way too far from the lane and he had to pass out again or he took a long time to back his man down.
A couple of things here... 1) If you would read posts, you would have known I was the one who said he was an average center. 2) I already pointed out that the worst teams in the league have guys that get double teamed. That doesnt make those guys elite players, it makes them the best options on their respective teams. Compared to "superstar" status, that means squat. You can be a bad player on an even worse team and get double teamed if you're the best on that poor team. 3) Yao is an average center. On the Rockets, he is still our best offensive weapon (gah I hate to describe him like that). Thus, he will be double teamed. It doesn't mean he's an elite player. It means no one else on the team has it in them to step up and score consistently. So, why wouldn't opponents double or triple team Yao? He is the best option on a bad offensive team. In Yao's case, that has very little to do with his status as an elite center. It's more about the lack of other offensive choices on his team. What's hard to understand about this? The only thing broken is your comprehension skills.
If other teams were playing a pee-wee team, would they have to double-team and triple-team little Johnny Johnson who stands 5'5" because he IS the pwee-wee Lakers best scorer and THUS HE DEMANDS a d-team and trip-team. Sometimes the comments about Yao are just so blatantly stupid that you can't even make a good response. I mean, if Yao could fly - dude - we'd so be up there with the elite teams. Yao's had a ballhog his whole career - Francis - McGrady. He's a center, he has to be thrown the ball, fools. Gripe about sealing off all you want, nobody throws a good entry besides Battier. Oh yeah, the reason they double and triple Yao? It's because there is no ONE player in the league who can guard him. THAT is why they double him. He's had 15 games or so since you newbs designated him your LEADER, give him a break!! "I wish Yao would..." "Why doesn't he JUST..." "Yao needs to get a..." "Yao should just get a POWER DRIBBLE!" HAHA!! That was funny! Do you nderstand how long it takes the ball to get back up to him? Is every new poster in the BBS asked by Clutch to post a stupid Yao thread? Because they're getting stupider and stupider by the day! Go watch the Mavericks and b**** about their superstars. Stupider and Stupider! Sincerely, Yao needs to _____________ and start _____________so he can _______________his game and be like _________________ and be a true __________!!
huh?? So, by your logic, even if Rockets is merely an "average" team (currently 3rd in west), Yao being its best offensive option, then does it make Yao at least an "above average" offensive player/center? and you happen to not notice what other players and coaches say about Yao? most recently Kobe's comment after the last LAL game comes to mind.
First off, comparing players across eras is baseless and unworthy of further discussion. Therefore, I find your claim that Yao is an "average" center laughable at best. He's a top 2 center in the league right now, and that's all that matters. How he compares to Hakeem, prime Shaq, or David Robinson is about as relevant as comparing George Mikan to modern centers. You can perhaps create arguments for both sides of the story, but it's a useless comparison - the ultimate irrelevance in sports. You also said that every team has a player that is CONSTANTLY double teamed - whether or not that player is hot. This is just false. Let's take the Bobcats or the Pistons for example. No one on those teams gets even half the attention Yao does. Teams play straight up man defense or zone against them. Why? Because there isn't a reason to double team when they don't have a player who could punish you at 55%-60% clip under single coverage, while drawing fouls. In fact, it's not just the Bobcats or the Pistons. There are actually only a handful of players in the league who get double-teamed as consistently as soon as they touch the ball. And of course, my argument is for your assertion that Yao is an "average" center and that his drawing of double teams is prevalent around the league. I still believe that he's one of the best centers in the league, but with some very blatant weaknesses. He can't lead the Rockets without 1-2 All-Star caliber players around him. But, I wouldn't trade him for anyone not named Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Dwight, or CP3.
Yao needs to take some mix martial arts in the off season and start playing more physical so he can improve his game and be like Shaq and be a true Dominant center!! Hey it works.
I'd agree with that. It still doesn't make him a superstar. The league sucks right now at center. It's a lot like MLB at 2nd base or catcher (over the past 10 years or so). Eh, not for nothing guy..but no I didn't. As an MD in training, I hope you improve your reading skills. I don't even know how to address this point, as I didn't make that kind of a statement. I said even the worse teams have guys that get double teamed. If you don't see it, then perhaps your vision skills are as bad as your comprehension skills. Might I suggest you stay out of medicine? It may not be your thing. (thinks to self "hmm, I may have just saved a life here").
and if you think we're there because of our offense (which was the aspect of the team I was talking about), then I don't know if I have anything to say to you that will make sense. We are not an offensive powerhouse by any stretch of the imagination. We have zero clutch scorers and only a guy and a half who can be counted on to score "near 20" a game. No leadership. Tune in to a Rockets 4th quarter. Thanks.
Fixed. I think I need to start previewing before submitting. Sorry, but I was going to say it a different way at first but decided it would most likely be too confusing. I need to be more careful when cutting lines of text.
Your lack of foresight and ignorance of all facts pretty much sealed off whatever credibility you posses on this forum. By resorting to personal insults and lack of proof to your argument is ad hominem in my view. Nothing but a troll!
When you say that even the worst teams have guys that get double-teamed, it implies that better teams naturally would also have guys that are double-teamed. Therefore, it's safe to assume that you believe every team has players who are double-teamed regardless of their statuses as players. (unless, of course, by some bizarre jump of logic, better teams lack double-teamed players) As for the "constantly" adverb used, it was simply to make a point - that Yao, unlike other first options, are constantly double-teamed, regardless of whether or not he's hot. And that's the value that he brings to the Houston Rockets. BTW, I'm going into orthopedics, so you better hope you never have to have a hip replacement.
Oh, I'm sorry. The NBA is loaded with superstar centers. The Rockets are an offensive juggernaut. Yao trumps Dream in every way. The OP is wrong, Yao is impossible to stop. He's the 2nd coming of The Stilt. Anything else I can sugar up for you fanboy?
Killer point! So true! This is a championship team that has followed up with thirteen years of disappointments. One max player after another, same result, nowhere. The loyal fans deserve more. I really don't feel sorry for the players, they are rich; I feel for the fans.
Dude, it doesn't imply a damned thing. I'm saying every team has someone who at sometime is double teamed. It isn't that hard to understand. I don't imply things. I'm Texan. I say them. If you can't follow what's being said, please don't try to debate. Putting words into someone else's mouth and then debating those words is rather ignorant. Stick to bones. Thanks.
