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[CHRONIC] T-Mac, Artest keep it interesting for Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. SuperStar

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    lol So your argument is because the Rockets have weak minded stars that let Artest do anything he wants and because he's uncontrollable, he fits the Rockets perfectly? While my argument is you need Alpha dogs stronger than Artest to control him like what Jordan/Pippen did with Rodman.
     
  2. JayGoogle

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    Yeah and where is Jordan and Pippen at on the Lakers?

    Kobe and Pau? Kobe and Phil? Kobe and Bynum?

    Kobe, the guy who players voted as one of the top 5 guys they DON'T want to play with?

    Reggie Miller couldn't control Artest, and Miller might as well own the Pacers.
     
  3. SuperStar

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    It's a comparison of strong alpha players of course I know Jordan and Pippen aren't on the Lakers.....

    I didn't know players don't want to play with Kobe. To me it seems like a lot of players want to play with him. They all seemed fine with it on the Olympic team. Artest is a friend of his and Tmac has said he wanted to play with him. I don't know why anyone who wants to win a championship wouldn't want to play with him.
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    Honestly I don't know either. It was a player poll so who knows.

    But mainly I don't see a system and pecking order would help Artest. That is basically caging the pit bull. Artest would be too low on the Lakers Pecking order, it'd be something like this...

    Kobe
    Pau
    Bynum
    Odom/Artest

    He came here and didn't really interrupt anything we were doing...we never were doing anything and had no system in place really. When we try to do motion, Ron Ron breaks up so many plays it seems. Not many good teams I could see him going to.

    Maybe the Hornets and Mavs. Some 'Playoff' teams in the East would take them but most of those teams 5th seed and below are not good.
     
  5. Obito

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    If tracy recovers from his surgery successfully I would honestly want to give him another chance.

    He is one of the better talents in the nba. My ideal version of the rockets at full force is when we faced the nuggets and he got the triple double, artest had a dagger with 20 points and I think yao had 25.

    That's what I invision the rockets in being.
     
  6. rocketsmetalspd

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    I don't see TMac coming back to the team. The guy does not rehab well. It will be not till February till he is fully healed. It also takes a good while to get back into NBA game shape the odds are against him being ready to contribute next year. I just wish the team would finally cut their loses and get something in next years trading deadline for TMac in his final year of 20 plus million contract.
     
  7. bbjai

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    I'm going to lay it all out there and say this is what I wish will happen next season.

    We have NEVER seen a healthy Tracy Mcgrady with Artest and Yao. We don't even know how that will work. He'll be there beginning of training camp.

    That quote by Artest, his not one to mince his words. He means it he means it.

    I personally want to see a healthy Tracy Mcgrady and Artest and Yao. Who doesn't. All his done this season T-mac if he redeems himself next season deserves another chance.
     
  8. JayGoogle

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    Tmac is going to get his chance. I think the Rockets would like to raise his value for a possible trade and if we don't get any good offers he could just be our cap relief.
     
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    As Fran said, Nobody is going to take an washed up star who is injury prone with a contract of 23 million.

    We're stuck with him in other words
     
  10. JayGoogle

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    Actually though, the 23million expiring is a reason why they would take him.
     
  11. OlajuwonShake34

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    He might be gone by the trade deadline, but He's going to be at training camp. This organization oddly loves him. :mad:
     
  12. t_mac1

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    surprisingly enough, tmac's done more in the past 4 years for this organization than anybody.
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, the front office seems to trust him more than the fans.

    I still hope he can come back and do something for us other than being cap relief.
     
  14. OlajuwonShake34

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    Yes, because he has gotten out of the 1st round in the playoffs. Oh wait. :rolleyes:
     
  15. t_mac1

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    we haven't gotten out of the first round. but in terms of what tmac has had to do (through injuries, carried the team without yao for the most part multiple times), he's done a lot for this franchise. that's why the team still could want mcgrady back.
     
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    He's done as much as Yao and Steve Francis has in the past. Yao is carrying this team without T-Mac too, and from what I see Yao could easily surpass T-Mac's moral accomplishments.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    relax dude. let's not get into an argument. i think most rocket fans would agree despite tracy's failures of getting us out of the first round, he has done a great job in the reg. season. we had way less talent last yr when yao went down, did you imagine how we finished and how we fought utah? c'mon now.

    hell, we might not surpass last season's reg. season record of 55-27 THIS YEAR. and we have more talent this year.
     
  18. OlajuwonShake34

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    Let's make a poll then, you go make one since you are the one who defends T-Mac in all of your 9,000 posts. He's done a great job in the regular season? Yep, he's done a great job getting injured every season.

    Another excuse of having Ron Artest on our team. LOL, Really. Steve Francis has probably done as much as T-Mac has done.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    dude, why are you getting all riled up?

    i never said he was our most accomplished rocket ever. damn. you need to relax. hell, he's not even up there in terms of our history, not even close to some of our renowned role players.

    but for you to not acknowledge what kind of reg. season we had last yr (55-27) and a historic 22-game winning streak? and tmac was a part of that.
     
  20. OlajuwonShake34

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    You said he's accomplished more than anybody on this team. Clearly that's false, considering the fact that Yao is possibly going to lead us OUT of the 1st round. Go make that poll, about who has accomplish the most as a Rocket.

    Tracy McGrady hasn't accomplished anything more than Yao has considering the fact that T-mac has earned as much awards as Yao has since he became a Rocket. Maybe if you were talking about him in Orlando, you would have a point. T-Mac has done nothing more than what Yao has done.
     

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