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[CHRONIC] T-Mac, Artest keep it interesting for Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    so you've seen amare? lol
     
  2. OlajuwonShake34

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    Really...Because I thought I said he was UNWILLING TO DRIVE for the past 3 years.

     
  3. t_mac1

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    06-07 and 07-08 - 7ft attempts per game

    last yr he did experience the same knee problems but fought through it b/c of injections -> 5.

    so "unwilling" is too strong bro.
     
  4. OlajuwonShake34

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    Considering the fact that Michael Redd a pure jump shooter had the same attempt of FT attempts in those 2 years too. Goes to show you he really has not been driving.

    You can keep worshipping Tracy all you want.
     
  5. TheGreat

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    Are you calling Kobe Bryant a pure shooter since hes averaging 7 free throw attempts a game this year?
     
  6. OlajuwonShake34

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    Great reading :rolleyes: , considering the fact that Kobe is considered a PURE SCORER. While Redd has been known for shooting.

    And just to let you know Kobe actually has teammates. Redd? Not really. McGrady? He has Yao.
     
  7. Shaud

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    Argument on this page has confused me.
     
  8. t_mac1

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    obviously you need to watch michael redd plays. he drives a lot via the curl screens the bucks do for him.

    and joe johnson averages 5 ft attempts even in his prime years. so relax.
     
  9. OlajuwonShake34

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    Even I am confused with what's going on, but I am not surprised since I am arguing with 2 people who's entire posts based off of Tracy McGrady.

    I am done talking about Tracy McGrady. He's a washed up superstar. I loved him in his prime but his time is done. Their are only 2 people on this forum that would think such things about Tracy and they've all posted on this page.
     
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    Kobe is hard to classify like that. Much like MJ did in his 30's Kobe seems to be transforming himself into more of a pull-up and fadeaway assassin. The part that kills you is despite knowing his tendencies he can still blow by you if he wants to. Basically meaning he's going to get a ton of FT attempts no matter what "style" he plays. Probably not the best example. :)
     
  11. Artesticles

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    Regardless of the Alston/Artest drama, you can't assume that was the reason he was traded. I don't think Alston gets traded if T-Mac was playing at a reasonably healthy level. Trading your veteran starting PG because of some minor drama? I don't buy it. The trade was made to see what Brooks was made of as a starter. With T-Mac gone, the priorities changed.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    Personally...I think we are the only team that can handle Artest and his odd shaped Ego.

    Our superstars are more passive than aggressive, they are more sefl-less than selfish.

    Picture Artest on the Lakers...really...he'd blow that team up. Celts he'd do the same thing because at points he's just not willing to play within the team. We are most likely the only team that will accept this.

    If Tmac is rehabbing his *** off and is willing to help out the team first. Than sure come back Mac. But we want NO PART of Slack-Mac, we want T-mac. Even if it's a Tmac coming off the bench to contribute 14ppg.

    Tmac can still be a 20ppg guy AFTER this surgery, it's not impossible. It just depends on how much his game depends on athleticism and if he can get around not being the most athletic guy on the court anymore.
     
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  14. SuperStar

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    Not really. Lakers would be perfect to handle someone like Artest. Like how Jordan handled Rodman. Phil Jackson would be a great coach for Artest as well. Artest needs strong leaders to keep him in check.
     
  15. ParaSolid

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    Read "7 seconds or less" (nice read by Jack McCallum) to see what was going on behind the scenes that year. The Suns were basically distracted the whole year with Amare's injury status, much like McGrady this year (though it was handled much better because he wasn't in and out of the line-up). At one point, Alvin Gentry (who was an assistant back then) would ask Amare if he was up for rehab only to get an incredulous look from Amare and a "are you kidding me?" line. Stoudemire came back well because he's a ridiculous athlete and he's young. Hard working? Not so much.
     
  16. Exiscion

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    I guess Tracy is the only guy in the history of the NBA to ever be doubled or swarmed by an opposing defense. And he must also be only player in the NBA to have to play an entire game, so that's why he was tired. :rolleyes:

    The Rockets had such a terrible team while Tracy was here, so terrible that they made the playoffs three times.
     
  17. JayGoogle

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    Artest is no Rodman.

    Tell me when Artest is dribbling dribbling dribbling and Bynum who is the future of the franchise is screaming "GIVE ME ******* BALL!" and then complaining when he's not getting it what is going to happen?

    When Artest wants the ball in clutch situations, and if he doesn't get it he's going to complain.

    Artest is going to demand to be a key player on that team.

    Also what did Phil do to solve Shaq and Kobe? Then when they bought in Payton and Malone and things got worse...Phil left.

    Artest does not nead strong leadership, he collides with that and challenges it. He doesn't like to be told what to do and how to do it. If he played for the Lakers or Celts that's exactly what would happen. They would try to cage a pit-bull.
     
  18. SuperStar

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    lol Only on the Rockets is Artest able to be the guy that takes more shot attempts than Yao/any other player on the team. You think he will be able to do all that stuff he does on the Lakers with Kobe and Phil Jackson is on the team?

    Kobe is older and more experienced now compared to the past.
     
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    If the Rockets sign Ron to a long term guaranteed contract, the franchise is wrecked the first time he does something stupid, and Ron is always one game away from doing something stupid.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    Kobe is older and more experienced? He still has his ego man.

    He won't even want Shaq back on the team knowing he'd help that team out in post defense just because he has to...its a MUST...win his ring without Shaq.

    Kobe is the guy that quit on his team in Game 7 a few years ago. That was quitting.

    Artest gets his shots, and he's going to get them. It doesn't matter if Kobe is on the team and Phil is coaching.

    Remember...Adelman was supposed to be the guy. Ron 'respected' Adelman they said. They said Ron wouldn't have a problem coming off the bench. "You can't cage a pit bull." Battier said that for a reason. Battier is basically saying the team has already come accustomed to Ron and his 'Odd Ego'.

    The Lakers could not handle it. Phil isn't the perfect coach. Teams that have strict systems and pecking orders, Artest isn't going to do well there.

    This team here is probably the only 'Good' team in the NBA that doesn't have a strict system or Pecking Order. Spurs, Celts, Lakers, Utah, Cleveland. Maybe not Cleveland, these teams have systems and pecking orders.

    Could Artest go to the Lakers and help them win titles...sure, but eventually it'll blow up. It might even blow up in our face.
     

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