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[CHRONIC] T-Mac, Artest keep it interesting for Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets34Legend, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. t_mac1

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    as bad as he played this year, whenever he came back from his rests, he played pretty well for 6-7 games (20, 6, 6) before the pain pops up again.

    if this microfracture can stop the pain/soreness that bothered him all through this season, he'll play again and play pretty well (no more superstar level obviously)
     
  2. TheGreat

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    Thing is, no one is going to want him. His contract will be valuable the WHOLE season. Even he does suck it up next year, he can get traded at the trade deadline. But what happens if he comes back and is pain free and can still average 20-23 PPG? We would be a top 2 seed for sure especially if McGrady is pain free and close to 100% healthy.

    By the way, I believe this surgery is actually pretty minor since its on the non-weight bearing part of his knee.
     
  3. BoomShakalaka

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    As long as Ron is in this team the Rox have no hope. I am for rebuilding starting this offseason, I am tired of having good regular seasons and getting kicked out of the playoffs, obviously thats whats going to happen this yr and next if Ron or Grady are back.
     
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    Tell me a player who came back from MICRO-FRACTURE knee surgery that starting playing at superstar or all-star level again....

    The only one I can think of is Amare Stoudemire, but considering the fact that he actually works hard, and that he was still very young then, it's a different story.

    Tracy is no different than Jamal Mashburn. Tracy might still have that jump shot, but he won't be blowing by players we saw earlier in his career.

    He's done being a star, I'm not sure if he's done being in the league. But he's sure done being a dangerous player.
     
  5. OlajuwonShake34

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    Wow, you seriously expect him to even average 20+ PPG? He'll be lucky if he can ever average 15+ PPG ever again for the rest of his career. It's clear that you are nothing but a McGrady homer, but there is no need to be delusional instead of realistic.

    Listen, I love Tracy McGrady....IN HIS PRIME. He's done being an all-star level player. He already looked terrible this season under shoulder surgery, there's no reason how he would look better under micro fracture knee surgery.

    Only one player has been successful after that surgery and his name is Amare Stoudemire. A player who caught it at a young age.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    his microfracture surgery is the "least" extensive type of microfracture as you can get. amare's microfrature surgery is actually much more extensive. and this will regrow some of the cartilage necessary to help strengthen that knee and reduce the pain he was experiencing.

    everybody has given up the notion tracy will be an elite player again in this league. but if he comes back and now understands his limitations and change the way he plays the game, there's no doubt he'll be an impact player in this league again (by that i mean stop playing so far from the basket, more in the low post, high post...).

    but we'll see. we'll know how tracy is when he starts playing next yr. and let's see how early he comes back.
     
  7. OlajuwonShake34

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    Tracy McGrady playing in the post....Right... Because we don't have any other players who can play there. :rolleyes:

    You can believe all you want, just don't be surprised when he plays exactly the same way he played this season.
     
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    if the microfracture doesn't remove the pain/soreness he felt, then yes.
     
  9. TheGreat

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    How would he be lucky to average 20 PPG? That would be easy for him especially if he can get the pain away from his knee. Only time will tell.
     
  10. OlajuwonShake34

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    Do you not understand that he really was not feeling anything in the past 3 years? He still didn't drive because he was worried about getting hurt again. Do you honestly expect him to still be explosive? As a matter of fact have you ever gotten micro fracture surgery yourself? I'm taking this opinion on what Jamal Mashburn said about T-Mac. He said that it was hard for him to beat people off the dribble but his shot was still there. Really, This season he really couldn't even beat anybody off the dribble.

    Your thoughts about future T-mac are not realistic by any means.
     
  11. TheGreat

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    We saw in the playoffs last year that he could still drive in...
     
  12. OlajuwonShake34

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    Gee because 1 YEAR ago is similar to a few months ago. :rolleyes:

    Keep having delusional dreams. I'm fine with that.
     
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    Aaron's fg% is a paltry 40% and he regularly ignores Yao and jacks up *more* shots than Yao. Furthermore, he doesn't run any plays for anyone other than himself. Yet he gets a pass. Why?
     
  14. t_mac1

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    he was all-nba the last 2 years before this year. so what u sayin?
     
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    He hasn't gotten a free pass lately.

    The heat is on Brooks because of how he is playing.

    It also doesn't help Brooks that Lowry is playing very good. The pressure is on him right now. If he keeps it up he will be bashed on this board just like Rafer.
     
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    We are talking about his knee and his health and you talk about All-NBA? :rolleyes:

    Ok, I am done with you.
     
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    LOL, I guess you don't know much about Amare Stoudemire then. The Suns are in a constant state of exasperation because of his unwillingness to work.
     
  18. TheGreat

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    You were saying he SUCKED the last 3 years while he said he made the all-nba team...
     
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    From what I've seen and heard. He worked his behind off to get back on the court. I am not too big of a fan of Amare because he cares more about his points more than winning. However, You cannot say he did not work hard to get back on the court. He is not willing to work on improving his defense or rebounding but he is willing to work back from an injury.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    you're saying "the past 3 years". i'm responding to that comment.

    again, we all don't know how tracy will come back b/c we don't know what microfracture surgery will do for him. but the consensus among the doctors and jon feign is that tracy will be back and playing at least at a good level, not great.
     

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