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Rockets are 26-2 when Yao scores 20 or more points

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Member

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    Yao does not have the dexterity to even attempt some of the shots that were a part of Olajuwon's arsenal. If Dream was denied the pass he could step out 15 feet from the basket, receive the ball, and ISO against his defender facing the basket and shoot off the dribble. Yao will never be able to do that.

    Nevermind also that defenses are now allowed to double the post player before they even receive the ball, and Yao doesn't have any where near Olajuwon's quickness for getting around or splitting double teams.
     
  2. OlajuwonShake34

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    If Yao ever develops a face to basket game, do you think he'll ever be able to do that? One thing in my opinion that was so dangerous about The Dream was that he could hurt you when he's facing you up and when he's backing you down. Not to mention he was like a Panther with his quickness and his strength.
     
  3. leonking

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    So will Lakers agree to trade Gaosl for Yao +500M this summer if they can't win it all?
     
  4. Rockets Jones

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    Still he needs to get more touches and shoot more than he does, especially on nights where is around 75-90% which he had sometimes and still shot only 7-12 times. That's not enough for your main star, best player and focal point of the offense.

    I want to ask you about that rule that they can double team before a player receives the ball, shouldn't that lead to many defensive 3 second calls if they keep running back on forth to their man / their spot in the zone and Yao ?

    I do not see many 3 second calls going against the Rockets so am I missing something here ?
     
  5. Angkor Wat

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    Brooks has taken more shots than Yao ever since he started. That kind of scares me.
     
  6. Gourami

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    You got the point. 26-2 means when strategy is right, THEN Yao is able to score 20+, THEN we are able to win.
    So Yao for 20+ is just one of measurement of Rick's IQ. But we do win 15? games when Yao scores less than 20+.
    Coach does matter.
     
  7. OlajuwonShake34

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    Dang, I wish you would answer. Anyways, would you rather have Yao develop a face to basket in the low-post? Or a mid-range jump shot in his game again?
     
  8. landryfans

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    rockets 43-24
    Yao missed one game? that is a loss.

    yao>=20 26-2 93% win
    yao<20 16-21 43% win
     
  9. landryfans

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    i mistake, yao had missed 3 games.
     
  10. durvasa

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    Yao will never develop a face the basket game that involves him putting the ball on the floor. The extent of it will be turning and shooting or passing the ball to someone else.

    Ideally, both if he can be effective at it. But he's not like Landry/Scola. If those guys receive the ball and their defender closes out, they can put the ball on the floor and try to create something going to the basket. Yao will never be able to do that effectively.
     
  11. Rockets Jones

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    I think it's even funny we're having this discussion, it's just so obvious that Yao needs to get the most touches, shots and 90% of the times needs to be the high scorer. When you're 26-2 when a guy is having more than 20pts, the stats speak for themselves don't they ?

    Can some1, RA, Morey or even Leslie please inform the team of this stat.

    Thank you
     
  12. Mikeylu

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    rox are undefeated when yao makes a 3 :D :cool:
     
  13. OlajuwonShake34

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    You aren't too optimistic about Yao's future, I'll take a guess and say you think he's already in his prime or his prime already past? I think he can develop one or the other, but as you said mid-range jumper is probably more realistic than face up.
     
  14. Yao4REAL

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    We been talking about this every single year: Yao did not get enough shots. In games that we lost like Chicago and Lakers, Artest took over and want to be the man instead of Yao...that is one of the reasons we lost those games. In Chicago, they fronted Yao which is understandable if you can't get the ball to Yao but there are times when if they try a 2nd look at Yao again, they will no doubt see him open. The problem is they ignore him if at first he's not open, they simply move the ball to the other side. They're not being persistent.

    As i said in the past, if the team want to be great and have a chance of beating ANY team in this league, they just have to look for Yao every SINGLE TIME!! It's a matter of persistent but players at time (like Artest) want to be the hero of the game and come out looking like a jackazz when the team lose. Even with Tmac, they're not giving Yao enough possessions. There is always good thing when they throw inside to Yao. It's either Yao for 2 or somebody is getting a wide open look. If they don't find Yao, the play can be erratic and you ended up forcing shots sometimes.
     
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    I disagree on Yao being the closer. He is far to clumsy and is a turnover machine in pressure situations.
     
  16. OlajuwonShake34

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    Hater alert..? This is starting to become repetitive. We would never see a clumsy Yao under JVG. Due to how strict he was. Yao is quite a limited player then again about every big man is. Turnover machine? You must not realize that even Hakeem averaged over 3+ TOPG.
     
  17. BleedRed

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    Well thats just common sense.. when someone scores more the team wins :) I am sure the numbers would be similar for Scola, Landry, Brooks or even Artest (to some extent) when they score 20 or more.
     
  18. TheFreak

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    Why don't you enlighten us with a breakdown of all the success Van Gundy's teams have had against Phil Jackson, either as head coach or assistant. I'm sure you're not old enough to remember, but you could probably look it up.

    Btw, your moniker makes no sense.
     
  19. BleedRed

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    btw can someone look up our W/L when Brooks, Scola, Landry and Artest scores 20? Stats can be misleading sometimes.
     
  20. Artesticles

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    Yeah, he would. Are you kidding me? I'm guessing you weren't watching the Rockets in Dream's prime.
     

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