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Ari Fliescher: Saddam Hit Us On 9/11

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Caboose, Mar 11, 2009.

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  1. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
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    It takes a tool like Mathews to make Fleischer sympathetic.

    Mathews distorts Fleischer's position when he claims that Fleischer admitted that the Bush Administration's case for invading Iraq was "dishonest" (It was dishonest, of course, but Fleischer never said that. He said they had been "wrong". There's a big difference.

    Nobody was riding Bush's jock harder than Mathews when we first went into Iraq it's just galling to me to see him try and portray himself as an early critical of the war after the fact.
     
  2. pgabriel

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    really? I had no idea, I've only been watching msnbc since election coverage, i would have had no idea matthews supported going into iraq. that's ridiculous
     
  3. bobmarley

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    I'm sorry but a true new testament church is..



    a called out assembly of baptized believers carrying out the great commission of the ascended Jesus Christ of Nazareth
     
  4. basso

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    that explains so much...
     
  5. gifford1967

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    Here's Mathews reporting on Bush's Mission Accomplished carrier landing-

    MATTHEWS: What's the importance of the president's amazing display of leadership tonight?
    [...]

    MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?
    [...]

    MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That [...] if you're going to run against him, you'd better be ready to take [that] away from him.

    [...]

    MATTHEWS: Let me ask you, Bob Dornan, you were a congressman all those years. Here's a president who's really nonverbal. He's like Eisenhower. He looks great in a military uniform. He looks great in that cowboy costume he wears when he goes West. I remember him standing at that fence with Colin Powell. Was [that] the best picture in the 2000 campaign?
    [...]

    MATTHEWS: Ann Coulter, you're the first to speak tonight on the buzz. The president's performance tonight, redolent of the best of Reagan -- what do you think?

    COULTER: It's stunning. It's amazing. I think it's huge. I mean, he's landing on a boat at 150 miles per hour. It's tremendous. It's hard to imagine any Democrat being able to do that. And it doesn't matter if Democrats try to ridicule it. It's stunning, and it speaks for itself.

    MATTHEWS: Pat Caddell, the president's performance tonight on television, his arrival on ship?

    CADDELL: Well, first of all, Chris, the -- I think that -- you know, I was -- when I first heard about it, I was kind of annoyed. It sounded like the kind of PR stunt that Bill Clinton would pull. But and then I saw it. And you know, there's a real -- there's a real affection between him and the troops.

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    MATTHEWS: The president there -- look at this guy! We're watching him. He looks like he flew the plane. He only flew it as a passenger, but he's flown --

    CADDELL: He looks like a fighter pilot.

    MATTHEWS: He looks for real. What is it about the commander in chief role, the hat that he does wear, that makes him -- I mean, he seems like -- he didn't fight in a war, but he looks like he does.

    CADDELL: Yes. It's a -- I don't know. You know, it's an internal thing. I don't know if you can put it into words. [...] You can see it with him and the troops, the ease with which he talks to them. I was amazed by that, frankly, because as I said, I was originally appalled, particularly when I heard he was going in an F-18. But -- on there -- but the -- but you know, that was --

    MATTHEWS: Look at this guy!

    CADDELL: -- was hard not to be moved by their reaction to him and his reaction to them and --

    MATTHEWS: You know, Ann --

    CADDELL: -- you know, they -- it's a quality. It's an innate quality. It's a real quality.

    MATTHEWS: I know. I think you're right.

    Later that day, on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann, Matthews said:

    MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like [former President Bill] Clinton or even like [former Democratic presidential candidates Michael] Dukakis or [Walter] Mondale, all those guys, [George] McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200604270005
     
  6. Caboose

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    i know that. i ujst dont rearlly care. a muslim mosque is a muslim church to me. i know it really isnt called that, but it doesnt mean anything to me.

    Anyways did anyone see Frank Gaffney on hardball yesterday claming that saddam was somehow involved with the Oklahoma City bombing?
     
  7. durvasa

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    It just occurred to me that Ari Fleischer looks a lot like Greg Maddux.
     
  8. glynch

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    Sort of reminds me of Bush I's presidential library in College Station. The guy had two things to tout in the library. 1) He was in a plane that was shot down in the Paific during WW II and 2) He had a war with Iraq. Not much else to talk about in his library. Vastly inferior to the Kennedy Library and the Johnson Libray at UT, the other presidential libraries I have seen.
     
  9. fredred

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    Way to completely misread that statement...well done.
     
  10. nkbearsnk

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    As much as Ari made me want to smash something, Gaffney made we want to punch a baby.

    Do these morons think the American public........give or take a few........is that stupid?

    Here is the transcript.

    http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/hardball-trying-defend-gwbs-record-fr
     
  11. rock8ts

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    911 remains a mystery to me.
     
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    Well apparently he has now turned on Bush just like most of America.He went from very popular to being rated one of the wort presidents in America history.G.W makes H.W Bush seem like he was the messiah.
     

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