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Let's Have Sign Saying "Referee Discriminates Chinese" Next Home Game!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by krockets, Mar 5, 2009.

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  1. leroy

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    If you choose to do this, I propose we start a pool...

    Over/Under on the amount of time before you get the sign taken.

    Do you really think they'd allow this in the arena? Before you start in with the free speech spiel, read the fine print on your ticket.
     
  2. real_egal

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    Actually, it's

    "Flopping in soccer, you get a yellow card"

    "Flopping in NBA, you can 'defend' a true center"

    "Flopping in Utah, you have the 'best' homecourt"
     
  3. rock8ts

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    I think this one will work. Not offensive but funny and we give them the right message.
     
  4. rock8ts

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    we should seriously push for this one. we need this come playoff time.
     
  5. got em COACH

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    good luck trying to get the corporate businessmen in the front court to get involve.
     
  6. Deepbreath

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    that would be definitely eye-catching.

    i am sure all the chinese meida will cover, even the CCTV

    all the Chinese fans would go mad

    better with a chinese version :D :D :D
     
  7. jkckwong

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    I agree it's time for something different. But saying that refs discriminate Chinese is not correct. You can say they discriminate Yao.

    In any case, I think Yao should be more vocal in responding to bad fouls. Whenever any such foul is called on him, chase the ref. and ask for explanation. Don't afraid to get a technical and even be ejected after 2 technicals. Unfair officiating on Yao would dampen Rox chance of winning games in the playoff. So getting ejected in one or two regular games might not be a bad thing. I am sure that action would arouse the attention of our beloved Mr. Stern.
     
  8. Lugz504

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    I agree with this and believe there is a certain racial aspect to his mistreatment by the NBA, albeit most likely subconcious racism.
     
  9. Lugz504

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    Please please please do this Rockets fans that live in Houston! I live in Reno so I can't, but this is the greatest idea ever and will certainly get some time on Sportscenter.
     
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    Probably so. The effect is small but enough to give someone an extra foul, the bench or a medal. It is part of sports, but it could explain Yao's problems right now. The only way to solve it is to put extra pressure on the refs. Most refs probably do not even know that they are being biased. But like all human beings, they can respond to pressure. Statements by Yao and RA help. Signs will also help, especially if they do not insult but are original, clever or humorous.
     
  11. bloop

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    1) it's never gonna be shown on TV. if anything security will take the placard from you and maybe ask you to leave the stadium

    2) no offense but this isn't racist. Racism obviously exists but Chinese have the weirdest ideas about what is and what isn't racist. Remember when we accidentally blew up that Chinese consulate and they were all in the streets talking about "racism" or conspiracy. It makes no logical sense. Racism towards Chinese in this country takes shape in denigrating portrayals of Chinese men in Hollywood and by not giving promotions to Chinese lawyers and professors in law firms and universities who outperform their white and black counterparts. It exists when Chinese men need 20% higher board scores and 5 points higher GPA to get into Ivy League schools and when those schools systematically give less financial aid to those accepted justifying it as there's less need to recruit or "entice" asian students. it basically exists in ways that Chinese in China couldn't care less about... since it doesnt affect them. Chinese always think racism is about national pride when it's actually about discrimination against individuals codified across society. Even in this case the idea of racism for the Chinese fans centers not around Yao as a person but the idea that Yao is the standard-bearer/representative for the Chinese nation and how somehow the NBA's national pride would be hurt if a Chinese man led a team to the NBA title. That's really not how Americans think... I know you cant conceive/believe that but trust me it's not how we think... it's actually pretty funny for us to think anyone cares about that stuff.

    3) even if this whole WAS racially motivated. it's impossible to identify in Yao's case because HE'S THE ONLY ONE. racism is racism only when SYSTEMATICALLY implemented. otherwise it's just called hating your guts. There are no other chinese centers in the league... in order to establish racism exists you would need data about institutional discrimination towards chinese centers in the NBA. since Yao is the only one they can always play it off as bad calls as about YAO specifically instead of racism.

    4) so no this aint gonna fly
     
  12. bloop

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    I really dont think there's any racism at all in this. Period.

    Racism would mean that the refs factor in whether a guy is chinese or black when swallowing his whistle. Refs dont care about race they just care about whether they're gonna get yelled at by the league office, intimidated by the fans and make friends with superstars.

    If anything it's a case where they assume Yao wont talk back because he's Chinese so they have a much easier time scapegoating him. But although the sentiment may be racist you cant call the action racist because they in fact are RIGHT. Yao will not complain in a convincing manner so you cant really call that racism when they're simply reacting correctly the the stimulus. A black player who conducted himself like Yao would also be considered soft and wouldn't get calls either.

    Now if Yao could jaw and QQ as well as Jordan and Kobe, or go buck wild like Artest and Shaq and they STILL wouldn't call anything for Yao then yeah you could say it's maybe partially racist. But Yao doesn't do that ****. It's exactly why they always had no problem with calling **** on Bradley... because he didn't have any juice in the league. Same with Yao.

    I agree the bull**** calls on Yao are a problem that need to be addressed but it's not racist.
     
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    I think the entire rockets should boycott next time they play the jazz at Utah, telling the NBA that the refs better make the damn correct calls.
     
  14. Shaud

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    Horrible idea. Yao isn't the only guy that doesn't get calls at times.
     
  15. Deepbreath

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    WOW you really hit the nail on the head

    frankly as a Chinese i dont really think this is racist, and i am sure neither will most of the Chinese fans.

    btw, i really admire your analysis ;)
     
  16. Deepbreath

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    oops.. seems i use "really" every sentences.. plz forgive my poor English :(
     
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    The fans can do something about the bad calls. Boycott the games and protest outside Toyota Center. When the 4/5th largest NBA city has a huge decrease in attendance, the NBA will notice. When large amount of fans are protesting outside of Toyota Center, the NBA will notice!
     
  18. boheezi

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    that's a better idea
    yea, let the fans tell the league how horrible the calls are
    the refs calls are essential to the game, and if they make bad calls, they basically ruining the game
    what's the fun in that
     
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    Bad calls because of RACE??
     
  20. boheezi

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    no
    just bad calls in general
    regarding Yao
    especially on Moving picks, and offensive fouls down the post
    those are majority of fouls yao get on offense
    and defense, whether Yao was going straight up or not
     

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