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GUYs, try to suggest some solution for the FRONTING problem.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by janpwnz, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. DaronMalakian

    DaronMalakian Member

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    This is simple, but sometimes can be not enough if Yao's defender does a great job, like Miller did yesterday. If you put wrongly Battier at the strong side, his defender can arrive for the help against Yao for the baseline. I prefer to play a 2on2 on strong side and let our SF on the weak side. Better space sharing.
     
  2. soulsong999

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    Would Coach A be reading this thread?

    Does he not know better already?
     
  3. T-Yao

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    if every team fronts, we are doomed, but fortuneately, after this many years in the NBA, only some teams front us, and that's Don nelson's team and 2or 3 others
     
  4. cdastros

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    The big problem with fronting is the help side defense PF. The opponents PF is essentially playing a zone between Yao and Scola/Landry. My solutions is Scola/Landry should set a pick for Brooks/Lowery. This forces the opponents PF to either help the lob or defend the pick. If the opponents PF stays and defends the lob, then you have 2 on 1 with your pick (I don't think this will happen). If the opponents PF defends the pick, then the lob is open or Brooks/Lowery can still use the pick set by Scola/Landry. Before the Rockets couldn't run this play because Alston does a poor job taking advantage of picks.
     
  5. Lonestar

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    Another solution: let Scola p'N'r for Yao, then let Yao move out of the guy fronting him. At the same time PG drives to the rim using quickness either for a basket or for giving the ball to SG/SF for a 3 pt attempt
     
  6. Nick

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    But, it does neutralize Yao big-time.... if a team fully commits to it.

    What does that say about our future championship chances if teams can supposedly neutralize our best player whenever they want?
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Guys,

    We have 2 new starters, they have not faced the fronting issue as much, they will come along.

    It was not the fronting that was the issue, it was the standing around and letting RON dominate the ball issue...on offense and a lack of team committment on defense.

    They will get it.

    It says the others should be ready for the wide open looks they are going to get because of it...


    DD
     
  8. DaronMalakian

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    Hey, hey! I have another one, this is the biggest solution: CALL PLAYS. "Oh lord!!"

    Yes Mr.Adelman, you can draw a play. Simple static positioning is important, but sometimes maybe not enough. If you want for soure to your center recievieng the ball at the low post, you can help him by setting some indirect picks from Scola/shane, etc... PLAYS. Thats why some coaches outside NBA don't believe on the league. Man, basketball coaching should be more than set a standar offense and go with it at any circunstance. You are the coach, do your work, think and set plays for your best players. :mad:
     
  9. Roxxx4life

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    Pick and Roll... Yao has a good shooting touch... Or maybe set a pick for Yao to get to his position... I don't know.. .that's just maybe :D
     
  10. Lonestar

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    yeah, agree with Roxxx4life. Design a PnR for Yao. Let him out of the fronting guy. Ask PG to penetrate either for a basket or a fake to a basket then make a transition to SF/SG

    Then possibly back to Yao
     
  11. Tha TC

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    why not have yao and luis swap roles in the offense... luis is showing more and more that he is a reliable post up player place him in the post and have yao in the brad miller role at the top of the key where he can either shoot or take advantage of his height to pass to whomever is open
     
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    Reverse pass from inside out by carrying the ball to baseline!
     
  13. Al Capone

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    Sign Hakeem Olajuwon to a short contract.
     
  14. PointForward

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    yes, I am extremely late to this thread, but I honestly think that there ISN'T a clear "solution" to the fronting problem.. Yao should be able to hold his position with his man behind him for however long it takes his teammates to get the ball to him.. I see everyone blaming the system, the coach, the players, but almost no one blames Yao for failing to hold his position in the post.. now, when we is fronted by a help guy, ie: Scola's man comes over and fronts Yao with Yao's man being behind him (this is known as "sandwiching" the player) , then it's extremely easy: Scola comes out to 20 feet (his normal range) and gets the ball, if someone comes over, swing it around, someone must be wide open => swish ..

    but all of this REVOLVES around Yao being able to hold his own man behind him and to easily establish his position in the post to make it easy for the guards to pass it down to him.. Yao's upper body is notoriously weak, and thus he has major trouble keeping his man sealed off behind him.. you never see Shaq being fronted by his own man, even though they hack the crap out him and he rarely gets the foul called.. it's because he's strong enough to keep that sucker behind him and to hold his position.. IF only Yao can do that, he'll be the superstar everyone likes to think of him as being.. as for now, he is an amazing center who hasn't realized his full potential because of weaknesses in the "fronting" area of his game.. considering Yao's amazing work ethic, he should be able to improve his upper body strength and thus enhance his ability to seal off defenders..
     
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    So do you think that the solution for a 7'6 guy??
     
  16. trueroxfan

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    lob it over the top, if they have a guy cheating on the weak side you swing to the middle fake the swing to the other side and immediatly go back to yao, it has to be quick and for some reason we are afraid to do this...
     
  17. mig0s

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    Alley-oop ftw!
     
  18. UrlPerlMonroe

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    Drive to the defender fronting Yao and pick n roll for a quick 2.
     
  19. tinywang

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    when you're 7'6, HELL YEAH!
     
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    Yao has to FLOP at least twice a game when the opposing team fronts him. Yao should fight hard to establish position and then make it look like he's being pulled to the ground to draw a foul. IT usually keeps opposing centers honest for the next couple of possessions whereby they'll play behind Yao. The more Yao falls down when people front him, the more refs will take notice.
     

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