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Finishing defensive possessions

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Blurr#7, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. Blurr#7

    Blurr#7 Member

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    Looking at the loss in Chicago (And even the win tonight) Opponents offensive rebounding and second chance points has become as issue.
    Even tough we're second in defensive rebounding this year we're 11th in offensive rebounds allowed. Come playoff time we all know every stop/possession is crucial.
    I know it's only two games and Landry was out, but it has been an issue during some games and in critical possessions this year. To me it comes down to sealing your man, putting a body on someone and tracking the ball.
    Our defense has been great these last few weeks and giving up offensive boards needs to be addressed before it becomes a bigger issue down the road.
     
  2. Yao4REAL

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    I think one of the reasons that other teams are getting offensive rebounds is because we forced them to take jump shots (long jump shots) due to Yao's presence inside. So with long jump shots, you get long rebound and unpredictable where the ball may bounce. What Rockets need to do is...have their perimeter players come back and help out the long rebound. Don't just guard your man and challenge his shot and then run up the court afterward...that is why Chicago getting offensive rebounds because the Rockets chose to run up the court or fail to get back to help out long rebound. Yao ain't going to get those long rebound because he's closer to the basket.
     
  3. scalper

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    Nice take... most of these games... we needed defensive stops... more than putting the ball in the basket...

    not that launching low % 20 footers late in the game...isnt a concern...
     
  4. shortfuse3

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    we give up offensive rebounds because Yao fumbles at least 3 rebounds a game. one thing to note here is that Lowry is averaging more rebounds than he did in Memphis, in LESS minutes, which means our bigs aren't good rebounders. our bigs were never good rebounders. we have Yao who isn't a good rebounder, and Scola who is undersized. Landry is our best rebounder but he's undersized as well.
     
  5. rox4lyf

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    Stats can be misleading. Logically, when you take a look at Memphis frontline, I don't think you can say they're better rebounders than the ones we have here. And while I don't have the stats for you, I'm sure year in and year out Memphis hasn't ever been a great rebounding team statistic wise while the Rockets are always around the top, so that's going to depreciate the numbers.
     
  6. Blurr#7

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    Yao does seem to fumble a few boards a game but from what I saw these last two games, most offensive rebounds came from our opponents perimeter players. There were a also plenty of times we just simply didn't box out.
    Overall we're a very good rebounding team even tough we do lack size and not very athletic.
    To me it's more of a lack of fundamentals or emphasis at times.
     
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    Rebounding numbers can be misleading. A good defensive team that forces opponents into taking a lot of low percentage long jumpers might end up with higher numbers of opponent offensive rebounds per game simply because 1) there are more opportunities for rebounds and 2) badly missed long jumpers tend to lead to unpredictable long rebounds. Other factors like how often a team fouls also can affect the number of rebounding opportunities and cause rebounding numbers to be misleading.
     
  8. HeyDude

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    Good take. Battier and Artest need to come back and help with the rebounding, not just contest and take off...
     
  9. durvasa

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    Being good at defensive rebounding and being good at denying offensive rebounds are, logically, one and the same. Team rebounding should be understood in terms of rebounding percentage, not total defensive rebounds or opposing team offensive rebounds.

    Based on rebounding percentage, the Rockets are amongst the best defensive rebounding teams in the league overall. I think there are two factors here. One, the Rockets as a team do not look to push the ball off defensive rebounds, so they all tend to hang back. Second, the Rockets are good at denying interior shot attempts that are more likely to be rebounded by the offense.
     
  10. FLASH21

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    Better hands is the answer to everything...
     
  11. RocketBlood

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    Putting Deke and having Yao rest late in the 4th with us having a big lead is the answer... We just got Landry back also so we should see some improvement.
     
  12. northeastfan

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    Simply catching a basketball is a skill that Yao hasn't mastered. After that, he could work on jumping and catching a basketball, but that's probably too advanced.
     
  13. The_Yoyo

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    i think rebounding has hurt recently with the injury to landry...i think yao's minutes is due to landry not being there either.

    not saying landry will solve all our problems, but considering size and rebounding is what were lacking and thats a lot of what carl brings defensively.
     

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