Although I don't think he will do it, Mo can lose that weight relatively fast. Anyone who follows boxing, or has boxed or wrestled and tried to make weight knows you can lose a lot of weight pretty quickly but: a) Its really unhealthy b) Its really dangerous(the water in your brain can evaporate and a blow to the head could cause hemorraging(I think thats how its spelled) c) The body can only maintain that weight loss for a little bit before it forces you to gain some of the weight back(you will be looking at food like you haven't seen any in months) d) Your body will begin to break away your muscles in order to properly feed itself. Mike Tyson is consistently overweight in between fights. Sometimes by as much as 70lbs. However he goes to camp for three to four months and loses it all and gets into great shape. With that all said I am almost 90% sure Mo Taylor will not lose all of that weight. Its pretty obvious that Mo had probably never lifted a weight in his entire life. The dude was just big naturally. He doesn't seem like the type that has that burning desire to be great at what he does so he most likely lacks the self motivation that it takes to get yourself back into shape. I hope Mo gets his butt into shape because he is a finesse type player, and needs his quickness. I would rather have Mo lose muscle and the fat than to turn the fat into muscle(which is a LOT easier).
I recently went from 240 lbs to 200 lbs in 4 months without changing my diet, well I did give up the beer. I ran a 7 min mile for about 45 mins a day, 5 days a week. It wasn't that hard once I got into it. Now that I've stopped....that's another story. Now I find myself in front of this damn computer than at the gym
No we didn't hate those guys because we hated the Derrick Cheivous's the Joe Barry Carrols the John Turners the Adrian Calldwells and the Buck Johnsons of the world. We hate underachievers. I was a huge Mo T fan when he was playing for the Michigan Wolverines I also liked him in LA and thought it was a steal to get him for that one year contract, but his first year in Houston was awful. I mean it really put a sour taste in my mouth. Then the Rockets went and gave him that ridiculous contract and that was it. I mean I still like the guy, but at the same time I realize that he was cut from the same cloth as Benoit Benjamin, and Derrick Coleman. Wonderfully gifted athletes who are too ****ing lazy to do anything special with their careers. So do we hate these players? No, but at the same time we really don't like them either. I think if Mo comes out next season in shape and actually performs well on the court then many on this board will come out and say they were wrong, I know I will.
I just wanted to be the 347th person in this thread to comment on the fact that... 1) Mo Taylor sucks. 2) Mo Taylor is fat. 3) Mo Taylor is a disgrace. 4) Mo Taylor is overpaid. 5) and Mo Taylor should really try to lose some weight. I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here. I'm trying to flog it, smack it, kick it, jump on it, strike it, b****-slap it, and headbutt it. Wasn't Mo devastated to learn about his injury? Didn't he start crying? That doesn't sound like a guy who lacks heart and desire to me. I say give him at least the summer to make things right before showing up at his house with pitchforks and torches. If he's shown no improvement by training camp or preseason, I'll happily join the lynching party. But I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt now.
There is no way on this planet that someone who plays intense basketball for one hour a day and burns 600-750 calories per hour will strip muscle mass before they strip off fat unless they are already emaciated (like a marathon runner). This flies in the face of the personal experiences of probably everyone on this BBS. The major health concern at high calorie burn rates is dehydration: "Medical authorities recommend losing no more than two pounds per week. When this is done through increased exercise and decreased calorie intake, weight loss will be due primarily to fat loss. It may be possible for some athletes to lose a maximum of four pounds in a week without dehydration, but muscle tissue will be lost along with the fat. It is not possible to lose weight faster than this without dehydration occurring..." http://www.iahsaa.org/wu98-1.htm Again, I submit that your maximum of 1.5#'s/week is skewed to the low side and does not take athlete's into consideration. It is not a health concern for Mo Taylor to lose 3#'s/week via a caloric deficit and an hour a day of intense basketball as long as he watches his fluid intake. It will NOT take until the Feb. 15th trade deadline for Mo Taylor to again weigh 260#'s.
We're talking about Mo Taylor here, not a super marathon athlete who wants to be the best in the world. He will NOT do whatever it takes to lose the weight. If you don't want to lose muscle mass while sheeding fat you need to weight train, eat lots of protein and take some glutamine. That's just how it works. Most of these guys don't have to worry about it because they aren't overweight.
Well you can go ahead and put EG in as our starting PF. I hope he is ready. In fact it does not matter. He is good enough. This softee Coach business of Rudy is causing all kinds of bad habits to seep in.
I'm much more dissapointed now than I was at the beggining of reading this. There's too much pressure. SO here's my rant: I've been a fan. I loved what he brought tot his team asa third option. But now, I look at him differently. Now I look and say if we offered him to Micheal Jordan along with the #5 pick for all the scrubs he has, MJ would spit him back into our face. This is not what a winner does. He's a nice guy. But not al nice guys are winners, unfortunately. This is not the direction I expected him to go. I thought he was improving over a year. What's he been doing since injuring himself? Smoking pot and eating twinkies for all I care. Great Job Mo, you don't even have those first 5 games to get into shape. I can't believe it. I've never been this dissapointed. I'm not half as dissapointed in the Rockets season. I'm not dissapointed bu the Langhi/Collier draft. I'm nto dissapointed by anything more than this. It's going to take miracles for me to be able to look at Mo Taylor anymore and have a single positive thought in my head. A question for you guys. What can we get for Mo Taylor, the #5 and the #15? Seriously. In this shape and situation. WHat can that get us. Give me a combo of players, one overpaid player. Whatever. I just want to know what the basic idea is on what we could get for that.
Sane,I have the same thoughts about Mo as you do.In fact I'm shocked to hear that he has put on so much weight.But I can assure you that no one will want to take him even if we package him with both the 5th and the 15th picks.
Some of you are so pathetic. Have any of you actually seen Mo Taylor yet? Do we know these reports are accurate? I don't understand how someone can go from being in shape and ready to come back in February to being 70 pounds overweight three months later...most of that time under the nose of the team. I doubt the report, and I'll reserve judgment on Mo Taylor and the contract he signed <B>WHEN HE PLAYS SOME ****ING GAMES YOU ****ING DISGRACES FOR FANS.
RM95, That is a bit harsh. If Mo is indeed this out of shape it does not bode well for his future. How many really fat guys lost a bunch of weight in the NBA and became productive players. I would say a few for sure, but not many. Just look at Cato last year, he was only 20 pounds or so overweight and he was never as quick or as in shape as when he signed the contract. I will reserve judgement, but Clutch has been pretty right most of the time. DaDakota
You're right DaDakota, and it has me concerned as well...but most of these disgraces for fans have been calling Mo a failure before he's even played a game after signing the contract...that is a bit harsh as well.
You can do that? I haven't seen him yet, so I am not going to make a complete decision on his future. I find it kind of hard to believe this report, since it sounds a little too high.
Like I said, I was a Mo supporter. But my sources are Clutch and Jeff. How possible is it that Clutch would say that unless he was assured somehow? The rest of the posts in the thread indicate it's either unhealthy or impossible for him to return to playing weight before the season. Does Mo Taylor really have it in him to lose MORE than 70lbs, since he was a bit over what should've been his playing wight, ANYWAY. I think he should be 245lbs. Apparently, he was close to that when he was in shape. I do cast some doubt, though, over how he could possibly gain 70lbs in 3 months. But before you call anyone a disgrace, understand that we trust Clutch's/Jeff's word, and we have good reason to. Don't tell me I can't wait to jump on him. I was giddier than everyone here when I heard last season, from the same source mind you, that Mo was in phenomenal shape.
Dude, I trust Clutch/Jeff as much as everyone else, but their sources have been wrong before. If not, we'd have made the playoffs this year with Shareef here. Even if the dude as put on 70lbs, which I doubt, there's really no reason to react like this until we see what the man can do during the season.
I was going to restrain, but I just could not. Why is this not so unheard of? The summer when he signed with Houston he was 270 and slow plus out of shape. With him being out for a yr, what is expected of a traditionally ,lazy athlete such as Taylor. He was lazy at Michigan,Lazy with the Clipps, so whats next? He and his potent first qt are not really a factor on this team. We overpaid for him just like Cato,Moochie, and Rice. Its a little different being 20 or maybe 30 lbs overweight, but 70 is just .................
RM95, Thing is, I know for a fact that there's a limit to what you can do when you're 70lbs overweight. He won't be as active, he won't be quick. Robert Traylor was considered an excellent prospect. Had he stayed in shape, dare I say, a better prospect than Mo. But look at him. Look at SHawn Kemp. It limits you, that's what I'm saying, and we were hoping for IMPROVEMENT so that he can be a factor. Now he's overweight, plus what he was when he was here. Decent at best now, don't you agree? Since The Cat is a Mo supporter, I'd like to hear his opinion on this too. Even HE should be dissapointed with Mo now. RM95, you're not at all pissed at the guy, KNOWING he could've prevented this?
Why don't we wait until the report is confirmed before we bash the guy? Oh wait, it's too late for that... I'm going to place my trust in Mo Taylor, not an uncomfirmed rumour.
