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Charles Was Right on This

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by yuisakata, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. shawn786

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    We have yet to lose since AB has been put into the starting line up

    Answer to your question is: NO!
     
  2. jedicro

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    I agree with the theory of what your saying, but your basing it on essentially 4 games.

    And for what it's worth I think the statistics should be looked at.

    Since being a starter (this recent stint) AB has been averaging 5 assists a game in 30 min. He has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio which isn't bad. He has had a couple bad shooting games thrown in there, but we know he can shoot the ball.

    I reallly disagree that he's a score first PG. He was off the bench, but now he only takes it upon himself to create offense if the clock is winding down. I say give it time. If it becomes apparent that he's not starter material, which I acn pretty much guarentee won't occur within this season, then we make a change.

    Alls I know for sure is the most important stat reads like this: Rockets are 4-0 since he took the reigns.
     
  3. Coob5

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    Can we not give Brooks a few weeks to play and get acclimated to the starting position before everyone starts calling for him to play on the bench? For god sake the guy just took over the starting roll and now we have people on here quoting Barkley. When did Barkley's statements start holding weight on the boards?
     
  4. rhino17

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    I don't mind having extra scoring in the starting lineup. That is what they were always missing with Rafer in the lineup. The starting lineup appears to be fine on both end of the court. Unless there starts being a big problem, I see no reason to change it.
     
  5. Big MAK

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    It really depends on how he meshes with the starters, and who we have on the bench. It is nice having so many 3 point shooters playing with Yao. How many times have we seen the double team come, Yao kicks it outside, and the shooter hits the 3? That being so, AB is a better 3pt shooter than Lowrey is, so right now (until Lowrey can prove otherwise) AB may be a better suit for our starter.

    But it really depends on what team. He may be a better starter for us, but on another team that needs scoring off the bench, he would be a better 6th man.
     
  6. ralphabetsoup

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    That's all we need to know at this point about our new point.

    If people are looking for 'conventional basketball'ers,' to fit into their preconceived notions of what makes up a proper team, then we need to get rid of the 7-6 guy (too tall and slow), the SF (too slow, can't jump), the PFs (too short, the SG (he's got a screw loose), etc. Replace the team with some people that 'look' the part.
     
  7. aka665

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    yeah, i agree. kenny smith during the hakeem era wasn't a great pass first pg, but he was able to make the shots when hakeem got doubled.

    but when yao is outta the game, we sometimes see our offense just stagnate. but i hope as time goes by, our pg's can get used to playing an effective 2-man game like so many others do in the league (paul/chandler, williams/boozer, etc).

    that can especially effective w/ brooks/landry since landry can roll towards the basket or pop out for a 15-18ft jumper. we can also try that w/ artest, much like how mo williams and lebron were running the 2 man game against us. artest is big enough to set an effective pick, pop out for a jumper, or post up against pg on switches.

    as for the high assist numbers, as long as yao is on the team, we probably won't see them from our pg's
     
  8. Exiscion

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    The fact that Aaron is a score first PG is not the reason that will inhibit him from being a PG in this league. His inconsistent shooting, I think, is his most detrimental trait. Hopeful, this will improve as he becomes accustomed to starting.
     
  9. rugg_31

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    I for one am for keeping Brooks as the starter. Take a look at how our bench is made up at the moment. Wafer, Barry, and Landry are all offensive players. Obviously Chuck is all defense. With Lowry on the court with this group you now have a point guard to distribute the ball on offense and keep the opposing PG out of the lane with his defense. Brooks is able to spread the court better with Yao on the floor.
     
  10. Yao4REAL

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    I like what i see in Kyle Lowry. Not only is he a good defender, he was all over the court in terms of help defense and awareness. Rafer CAN ONLY DREAM of doing that. He even box out and try to get offensive rebound every chance he get. But most importantly, he drive to the basket and is physical. Again, only Rafer can dream of this quality.

    That's why i wonder alllll these years, why did they continue to keep Rafer. Dude suck at everything i mentioned of Lowry.

    Lowry may not be a starter YET but i have no doubt he's going to play as much minute as Aaron because of his defense and his driving ability. If Lowry can shoot like Aaron...he will be an automatic starter no question.

    Both Arron and Lowry fit the type of PG that Houston need, someone that drive to the hoop and not afraid of contact, which is what Rafer afraid of doing or not really good at doing it. Tracy is the same thing....he doesn't take to the basket and only do it at his own term. These players don't like to play physical basket...that 's why i say both should be traded for the better of the team.
     
  11. AKRocketsFan

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    Tony Parker can't do it all. He can't shoot three and wouldn't say he locks anyone down.
     
  12. fleshbody

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    eh...i suppose you weren't paying attention to parker's back-to-back 37+pts this week... he has developed his jumpers, if you look at his hot spots you can see his long range is decent,(45.5% this season).

    on the other hand, AB is shooting long jumpers at 46.8% and 36% at the 3s...which is just a slim better than parker's 34.1%.

    IF that's your deffinition of can shoot/can't shoot, hmm :rolleyes:

    check the stats next time before you make some bold statement...
     
  13. fleshbody

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    fixed
     
  14. King1

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    Just out of curiousity, why is there a thread suggesting demoting AB to a backup when we are on a 6 game winning streak?
     
  15. Nolocke

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    Only thing Charles is right about is that Krispy Kream made him fat.
     
  16. diegot143

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    We need a better shooting point guard, and Aaron Brooks is that compared to Alston. I think it is yet to be seen if we are a better team, but it seems that we actually can be, when i didnt think we could be when i first found out about the trade. Brooks brings in more of a open team dialog attitude toward the starting line up. He is humble and listens while Alston was more of a player who felt like he had to be the big shot, the leader. I think with out Alston, Yao Artest will feel more comfortable in the system knowing that they are the ones who will get the ball. I say Yao and Artest because i think they need to feel like they are the leaders to play good. Players like Scola Battier dont need to feel like they are the leaders to play good.

    That being said, i think that in the future the Rockets will be looking for a upgrade in the point guard position, which will make Brooks and Lowry trade assets.
     
  17. roflmcwaffles

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    IMO Brooks fits this starting lineup.

    Yao clogs the lane, so Lowry wouldn't be as effective with Yao in there.

    Around Yao we need:
    1) Guys that can shoot 3s
    2) Guys that can bring up the ball and give it to him
    3) Guys who can play defense.

    Brooks can do all these things, his defense isn't great but it is good enough, and his quickness helps.

    Lowry is the better talent, can do more and has a higher ceiling, but that being said he is build for a team like Phx more than Rockets, and when Rockets go small and run: Scola, Batman, Ron, Barry, Lowry (something like that). Lowry can take advantage and drive/dish or even just run it up the court for fast breaks.

    That's my reasoning for why lowry isn't starting.
     
  18. RocksMillenium

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    Charles is wrong. Next question.
     
  19. Cstyle42

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    Charles Barkley just needs to not drink more than 2 beers before he drives or talks.
     
  20. ralphabetsoup

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    Cause Charles Barkley need to kiss a donkey behind.
     

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