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Charles Was Right on This

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by yuisakata, Feb 28, 2009.

  1. Yetti

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    Sorry DD must say otherwise. Brooks is a great scorer and I noticed that the coach is stifeling his scoring when he plays with the starters. And he is mostly a Shooting Guard rather than a traditional Point Guard , so I half agree with the poster but think the switch over will start to show as we play the tougher teams and possibly by the playoffs AB will come off the bench to the gretaer advantage of the team. Anyway he works better with Von Wafer. :p
     
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    i can give you chris paul and it will still not gonna solve the fronting issue i gurrenteed you
     
  3. T_Man

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    Good point
     
  4. yuisakata

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    Parker can't shoot 3s, but his long 2s and driving layups are 200 times harder to block as Brooks'. Parker is also taller and stronger than AB and has better court vision when he's going to the rim.

    So many times when AB starts driving, I know all he sees is the rim and will toss the ball up instead of kicking it out to a teammate with a better outside shot, as Parker does.

    Outside shots can be improved over time, but at 24 years old, given his slender build, I don't think AB will get much taller or stronger.
     
  5. yuisakata

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    Chris Paul is a very reluctant shooter. He scores a lot because other than David West, the Hornets really have no other reliable scorers. CP3 is the ultimate team player so when there's no scorers to pass the ball to, he does what his team needs him to do most - score.
     
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    when Brooks and Lowry settle down, I can see Adelman giving them each 36 minutes in the PG-SG mix. I can see them both pushing each other and teaching each in practice. Ron then fills in some time at the 2 & the 3and the rest of the rotation is affected down the line with Rockets having some really good mix & match combos depending on the matchups with opponents.

    :D
     
  7. Streets 01

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    Brooks starting:

    Pro's

    * Gets results: What is it 9-1 now with Brooks starting? I don't remember, but it's high.

    * Knows the offense better: Simple experience that has come from spending his whole career here.

    * Can make teams pay for doubling Yao by hitting the open jumper.

    Cons:

    * Is a score first PG who can get his OWN shot, making him the ideal sixth man coming off the bench for instant offense tearing up teams second units.

    * Lack of size and strength makes it harder for Brooks to defend opposing PG's with size.

    * Brooks plays with less control than Lowry

    Kyle Lowry Starting:

    Pros:

    * He is a pass first PG who will look to set up the offense and get other players easy shots.

    * He is a better defender (more size and strength) which means less guards getting into the lane getting Yao in foul trouble

    * On offense he is great at penetrating and drawing contact, getting opposing bigs in foul trouble.

    * Great rebounder for a PG which can help when Yao misses those long rebounds.

    Cons:

    * Lowry's outside shot is pretty bad, and as a starter he needs to make teams pay for doubling Yao

    * He is still learning the offense and has made careless mistakes due to inexperience.



    As far as who finishes, if we have a lead, I like Lowry finishing because he is better at slowing it down, and playing with control. Plus his defense can help protect the lead.

    If it is a close game or we are losing I like Brooks finishing because he is clutch in the 4th and can score in bunches.
     
  8. code_red

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    Devin Harris a a score first PG.

    Anyways, I don't see what the issue is with Brooks. If we win more games with Brooks starting, it's a non issue.
     
  9. RocketFan34

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    Brooks doesn't seem to be handling the pressure as well as I would have liked since becoming the starter. I like what Brooks brings to the table, but I am still reserving final judgment that he can be a starter for this team until I see some consistency. He has all the tools he just needs to calm down and play within the confines of the offense.
     
  10. yuisakata

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    Amen that.



    However, I started the post with the intention to, in theory at least, possibly improve the team in the long term thanks to that hint Charles provided on TNT before he's going to have to stay in jail coming March.
     
  11. tsunami

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    AB simply can't do both.
     
  12. Herb

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    Well, Brooks was asked to score coming off the bench for most of the season. His assist numbers have increased when he played as a starter.
     
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    Devin Harris is also on the Nets....
     
  14. HowsMyDriving

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    i do not understand why you guys are so quick to want to define who should do what.

    basketball is a game of matchups.

    in some situations lowry will be the superior option. in other situations AB will be. depending what set of skills you need to have on the court, they are both very capable.

    why can't we agree that the combination of lowry and AB at the point is a better, more versatile, and more long term solution than the combination of AB and rafer?

    how to use them and when is for adelman to decide, in the flow of each game, against each opponent, and depending on which skillset will give the team the best chance to win
     
  15. ABZERO

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    For those who want a pass-first PG, we should've definitely gone for Jason Kidd, who was outplayed by a score-first PG named Aaron Brooks.
     
  16. G0 R0CKETS

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    I like the situation the way its now.

    Start Brooks ...Lowry off the bench.

    Will that change? Maybe.

    For now if it ain't broke don't try to fix it.

    Either that or bring back Matt Maloney.
     
  17. tiger0330

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    Morey has said Lowry should start but it's coaches decision, obviously Morey thinks Lowry is better. Adelman has said it's too late in the season to integrate a new PG into the system, so for this season AB starts and gets the bulk of the playing time. The Rox are now playing their best ball so why change anything.
     
  18. Hou.SportsFan

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    Brooks will probably be the starter for the rest of the season, and then it will be who looks better during the off season, the way it has been every off season. Lowry looks like he is going to be a really good point guard and i don't think anybody but Brooks might complain if he started because at the moment they are pretty interchangeable...

    but even Battier has compared Brooks to Tony Parker, but unlike most of you on this board he did it right and looked at Tony as a rookie and 2nd year player like Brooks is now...

    Tony Parker rookie season GS 72 FG% .419 Reb. 2.6 Ast 4.3 To 1.96 Pts 9.6
    2nd season GS 82 FG% .464 Reb. 2.6 Ast 5.3 To 2.4 Pts 15.5

    Aaron Brooks rookie season GS 0 FG% .413 Reb. 1.1 Ast 1.7 To .86 Pts 5.2
    2nd season(so far) GS 10 FG%.402 Reb.2.2 Ast 2.7 To. 1.47 Pts 10.5

    Parker started alot more games meaning he played alot more min. But brooks as a starter is avg. 4.1 ast
    looking at it this way they do seem to be very similar players.
    I think we need to give both of our point guards time to grow and hope that they might just turn into a Tony Parker-esk player.
    They are playing well right now and we are winning games.
     
  19. startover

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    Totally agree!
     
  20. nomad_balla

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    rockets are stuck with brooks at point guard for now. while the staff and coach might think kyle lowry will eventually be the starting point guard. promoting lowry right now will be a disaster for the confidence of brooks. brooks might be so annoyed he might demand a trade which is not good for our chemistry right now. also we need brooks right now. bottom line is that lowry won't be promoted until he shows he deserves it and this will happen most likely next year because changing starters right now will be bad for chemistry in terms of damaging ego for brooks. i think we will see lowry finishing games by the end of the season but he won't be starting.
     

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