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Lowry vs. Rafer vs. Brooks (Hotzones)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fuzzybear, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. MadMax

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    This trade was about Alston. Lowry is an afterthought. Something must have happened to cause them to make this trade.

    I promise you the Rockets brass didn't wake up this morning thinking they were looking to upgrade the 1 with Lowry.
     
  2. kevolution

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    Trust me Lowry is NOT the next Jason Kidd... lol
     
  3. LCII

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    We might be missing 3 pt shooting with Rafer's departure, but we have many players on our team who can fill that void...Battier, Barry, Artest, Wafer, Brooks, etc.

    Meanwhile we get a PG who loves to go to the basket, this will allow our offense to be less predictable and maybe even more potent. A point guard is more effective when he has the ability to take it to the rack, imho.

    So we dont lose any offense from the 3 point line while adding a bit of offense in the paint...seems good.
     
  4. maarrrtiin

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    brooks is a shooting guard in a point guards body imo.

    and lowry is just a guard in a point guards body. he reminds me of a dj strawberry with a tad bit more pg skills. iono this trade sort of excites me, lowry has potential and is 10 yrs younger than alston. i think lowry can develop and worst case scenario: lowry is only 3/4 of what alston is and brooks is our starting pg.

    EVERYONE has been complaining about our pg position...so why not try something new, pretty sure this trade wouldn't happen if tmac wasn't hurt.
    good time to take a risk when your 2nd/3rd best player is out for the year and your championship hopes go down a lot
     
  5. magicwind

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    LMAO, Kidd ever avg. 2.3 ast in any single season including rookie season?

    OMG, if lowry can become Kidd, a pig can become KG!
     
  6. DaneB

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    Although not a primary backup point, Brent Barry can also do some decent work at the point guard position. He did so with the Spurs and has shown some signs of hope for the Rockets.
     
  7. GotGame15

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    This trade is also a lot about efficiency...37% career FG shooter? Come on, why do you think we are one of the last teams in terms of offensive production? This trade is a real sleeper, Lowry is 22 and has some potential. Granted yes he still has a lot to learn in the system, but at least he wont force up shots that we all know will be automatic bricks if alston were to shoot them. I think this makes us more efficient on the offensive end and gives us some toughness on the defensive side. This kid has a big body and plays great defense, which we will need against the Williams, Nashes, CP3s in the west.

    Another point that is often overlooked is Cooks role in the offense. I know that he wont be in the rotation, BUT i do see him as a specialist. In certain situations we will be able to spread the floor since he is the only PF we got that can hit the 20-23 footers. He will barely see PT, but those specific situations can be a plus for us.
     
  8. magicwind

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    first of all, Rafer's career FG is .385, .370 is this season. there is another guy's career FG. .40 and the worst season is .366, guess who he is? Jason Kidd.
     
  9. MrButtocks

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    I'm surprised Lowry has such a bad rep on this board. He's always been a good defender and can penetrate. Even going back to his Villanova days the kid was relentless. He's like a shorter Russell Westbrook. You'll be surprised at how a PG like him is so active on the offensive glass. If he can improve his shooting we got a steal.
     
  10. RedIsen

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    Your logic is astounding.

    Kidd was the drafted #2. Lowry was drafted #24.

    Kidd is probably going to be a Hall-Of-Fame guard. Lowry (as of right now) is probably going to be a role-player.

    Also, the only reason Kidd can get by on his terrible shooting percentages is because he does so many other things. The season he shot 36%? He also averaged 10 assists and 8 rebounds to go with 11 points.

    If Rafer could average those numbers he could shoot 25% for all I care.
     
  11. rox4lyf

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    good post. it seems like most of this board is infested with r****ded children. it probably is, or adults who are r****ded.
     
  12. rox4lyf

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    Some of you guys need reading comprehension lessons. While some gripe about Lowry's inabilities, most are griping about the loss of our starting pg and how it will impact our team. The whole Lowry/Alston comparison is pretty irrelevant. Lowry isn't starting, he's taking over Brooks' role. The better comparison is between Alston and Brooks.
     
  13. RedIsen

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    When Brooks was starting, he was putting about the same numbers Alston was.

    Except he had better percentages, albeit with one less assist.
     
  14. blender

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    True, but Lowry will get plenty of minutes as the backup PG. So I think the better comparison is between Alston/Brooks and Brooks/Lowry.

    Anyway, I don't know much about Lowry but I'm interested to see just how good his mid range game is. If it's consistent, I could see him thriving here, even without a good 3-point shot.
     
  15. MrButtocks

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    Don't sugarcoat everyone's opinions. The reaction to Lowry as a player has been overwhelmingly negative. This is the lone positive thread about him and it's being hijacked by doubters.

    We will survive just fine without Alston. Most posters have been calling for his head for years. People threw celebrations they thought Mike James and Steve were replacing Rafer, but are going hysterical now that we're replacing him with someone young, talented, and productive. I guess people here just don't know basketball.

    It's a sad indictment of this board when everyone thinks we're better without McGrady, but much worse without Alston.
     
  16. magicwind

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    LMAO again. I am not the one wishing lowry to be Kidd, I am just replying that guy saying this. You shot the wrong direciton! Is that you, former vice president Cheney?
     
  17. magicwind

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    that's impossible. he can't pass, he doesn't know passing. Rafer's ast number is not exciting, but you know that he got the number with ball in Tmac's hands most of the time! Just look at his recent games without Tmac on the court! Can brooks do the same? highly doubted.
    even a better FG percentage I still doubt about. with more play minutes and more change for AB to jack up 3s blindly, his percentage will drop.
     
  18. casey_chy

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    rafer ftw sthu!
     
  19. pippendagimp

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    I've also been hoping to get Lowry on the team for a while now.

    I am not completely sold on his ability to improve his three-point shooting and at times he tries to do too much on his own instead of looking for the open man...

    But the kid is just as quick as Brooks and is a great finisher (especially on floaters!).....and lastly, his toughness and heart are both off the charts......in Dream's and SF3's class, IMO...
     
  20. larsv8

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    Lowry seems to have a higher field goal percentage than Rafer, which is interesting because his % behind the arc is abysmal. Adjust his 2 pt.% by subtracting out his terrible 3pt shooting and you have the the potential of a very effecient guy running the point. If he can play to his strengths in Adelmans system, and takes alot less threes, he could be very good here. Remember that this move was more upgrading Brooks into the starting role than trading Alston. My guess is they couldn't do that with Alston still on the team for whatever reason.

    The reason this kinda stings is, Rafer has been playing great basketball lately and I can't help but wonder if it is because he is just being streaky or he is more just a better player without McGrady dominating the ball.
     

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