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The Rafer trade is about locker room leadership too.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. tinywang

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    Lead by action

    -Jeff Van Gundy on Dwight Howard
     
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    This is probably the worst post by you I have seen. Non-sense

     
  3. Dave_78

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    So Yao's leadership abilities were being stifled by a 32 year old, ex-street baller who has a problem with not getting arrested in the summer?

    Wow. I can't wait to see more of that assertiveness from Yao in the locker room. I wonder if the Spurs traded Steven Jackson back in the day because Duncan couldn't lead as long as he was in Jackson's shadow?
     
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    i think, either morey is giving up on this season and wait for the next season, rebuilding again :(
     
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    i cant believe so many people are complaining.
    when he had the worst shooting nights and took floaters
    and pop threes on a fast break he was bashed.
     
  6. she'sdone

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    DD's a rumor maker.

    Houston has another drama queen after TMac :D
     
  7. Shaud

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    Wait his turn?

    Yao was here before Rafer, not to mention the fact that Yao is an all-star player and Rafer is a role player.

    Sorry but if a role player who got here after Yao is leading the team before Yao then I guess Yao can not be a leader.
     
  8. Rocket1

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    DD we have had our disagreements about McGrady but I think you nailed it on the head, or at least close to the head. And for the most part, I agree. I'd like to throw in my 2 cents.

    It was obvious (even when McGrady was healthy and playing hard and leading the team) that Rafer thought mighty highly of himself. Just listen to any post game interview. The supposed "Floor General", please. The guy had his moments, few and far apart, but had moments. He wasn't the demigod many of you are making him out to be. That being said I hope his career flourishes in Orlando. Maybe he can help them out.

    I don't think it's the greatest trade of all time. I actually think its average at best. But it's definitely not a "ZOMG THE ROCKETS = MASSIVE FAILZ" trade like most of the piss ants on the board are knee jerking too (careful you don't get hit in the chin). Let Brooks have a shot. The dude can score. He's young. He plays as hard as anyone. And from what I can tell, he loves to play the game. Stop expecting a championship this year. That dream ended long ago. Personally, I am expecting a trip to the 2nd round this year. Beyond that I would be highly impressed. Regardless, I am excited for the rest of the season and can't wait for the game in San Antonio in March. I'll be the guy decked out in Rockets gear and my face painted red yelling obscene comments at the Spurs fans around me.
     
  9. Olajuwon2Yao

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    The teams' LOCKER ROOM leader is Ron Artest now, He is the only player that can actually talk to people and has the respect from others. Dirk is and was not the locker room leader as a Maverick.

    Both Dirk and Yao and Kobe lead by example. None of them lead by locker room, maybe Kobe. But I don't see that from him.

    LeBron, Wade and CP3 are the only players that lead on the court by example and by the locker room.
     
  10. Shaud

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    A)The only reason Rafer tried to be a leader is because Yao and T-mac didn't have the balls to be clear leaders.

    Was Rafer a leader in Miami? No, a young D-Wade and Lamar Odom were leaders of that team.

    Was Rafer a leader in Toronto? No, because he knew that was Vince Carter's at the time or Coach Mitchell was too strong of a presence for Rafer to become that.

    So now he comes to Houston and he tries to become a leader. Why? Because we clearly have no clear cut leader.

    To trade Rafer based off wanting someone to become a leader would be pure idiotic, especially considering Rafer wasn't even on the team when the guy they want to become the leader first came here.
     
  11. emjohn

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    Total and complete FAIL. Yao is the only person holding Yao back in the locker room.
     
  12. Dr of Dunk

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    If Rafer Alston is stopping you from being a leader, what the hell kind of leader are you?
     
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    I'm not sure about Yao becoming a vocal leader, but I can see your point why Rafer needs to go.

    He's always blaming at other players (T-mac) when they lose. Even if it may be true, you don't do that publicly.
     
  14. Rocket1

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    Yes the "Floor General" certainly could point the finger.
     
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    3 games off of san antonio....We really suck, yeah this trade is about winning now and in the future. Rafer is a good player but not the end all be all. This team now has two guards who can pick up the pace, along with wafer scola even artest. Its about winning no matter what people think. Les from what i have ever seen never cashes a season in..It may not be the right move but its a move to win
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Wow - it is a theory of mine that Yao is waiting his turn, and that Tmac and then Rafer were effectively there first.

    Rafer was clearly the leader of the team, you can see it, and that is a problem, whether anyone likes to admit it or not.

    In order for this team to move forward a clear hierarchy has to be established ON THE FLOOR.

    Moving Rafer along helps establer further that Yao is the center piece of the organization.

    I guess we shall see if Yao takes the bait, or if this theory is just plain poo.

    ;)

    DD
     
  17. leebigez

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    Wasn't that part of BigEz's plan to rebuild?
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    We agree a lot, our only difference is in Scola....and Battier.

    :D

    However, we now have Cook who can play the 4 and stroke the 3, I am on board with this trade.

    DD
     
  19. Shaud

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    1)How can T-mac and Rafer came in after Yao but yet get leadership before Yao.

    All this proves is that with both gone we have no leaders or someone(probably Ron) will become the leader.

    2)You say Rafer being the leader of the team is a problem. Well that basically means Yao is a problem for allowing that to happen.


    If this team starts making moves to try and get Yao to be a leader we are headed down the drain sadly.
     
  20. mikelowery

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    wheres chucky brown when ya need him
     

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