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Adelman = Player's coach

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bandwagoner, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Member

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    Might or might not be true but JVG sliced out the cancer's and kept them away from the Toyota Center.

    Adelman is having a mutiny on his hands with Ron and Tracy. And Ron is supposed to be HIS GUY.

    This players coach crap is a myth.
     
  2. BrooksBall

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    Adelman is one of the most successful coaches in NBA history and he has never had the top player in the game at the time on his team.

    He never had Olajuwon, Jordan, Kobe or Shaq. Sure, he's had some great players like Clyde and Webber but never the absolute best of the best.

    And I have never heard of an NBA player that didn't like playing for Adelman.

    Do you see the way his former players greet him before games when he coaches against them?

    Do you see the way Kings fans still cheer for him when we visit Arco?

    Adelman stays cool when the going gets tough and he doesn't get too high when things are going good. As far as the Xs and Os, I think his track record speaks for itself.

    For the record, I was also a fan of Van Gundy. They are both great coaches with different styles. Not winning a championship doesn't change that fact for either of them.
     
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    JVG is a control freak.. its his way or the high way..
    If he played Bonzi that year we probably would have advanced...

    RA has too little control...
     
  4. badgerfan

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    Quoted for truth.
     
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    I'm afraid the players are taking advantage of Adelman's very loose leash. I would have thought that it would help the players with stress issues and tension, but I guess it backfired on him.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    Dude Clyde was never less than 1B to MJ if that.

    This is off the point though. He allowed problems to simmer, percolate, boil and then explode to full WTF status.

    JVG said 2 months ago he would have sat TMAC down and said "In or out, we have no ability to let you be in a game then out the next, it doesn't work"
     
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    I think part of the problem is that he is too much of a player's coach. Of course all his former players like him. He probably doesn't b**** at them to get back on defense like a JVG coach would. I think the laid back approach negatively hurt this team. Especially if you have a player like T-Mac who needs to be pushed.
     
  8. BrooksBall

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    Clyde was great. I'll accept the 1B status. The point is that Adelman has had terrific success as an NBA coach and players have historically had great respect for him.

    I don't think Adelman allowed anything to happen. A guy like McGrady is beyond any coach's control. He's a selfish, me-first primadonna.

    And I personally don't care what JVG said. He's not our coach anymore.

    Plus, wasn't it on JVG's watch that McGrady was quoted in the media saying he planned to retire and play baseball as we were approaching the playoffs one season?

    Wasn't it on JVG's watch that Francis missed a flight to party on Super Bowl weekend?

    There are just some players that can't be disciplined by anybody. At this level, we aren't talking about kids that need parenting. Even if a player comes straight out of high school, they are professionals once they sign their first contract. They shouldn't need to be treated like kids. If they act up, get rid of them.
     
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    RA is a lay-back, push-around son of gun for sure. He doesn't have the guts to confront his players.
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    I don't remember TMAC talking about baseball (my guess is he was joking)

    SF3 got suspended then moved 3 months later. Perfect example of how to do it. Thanks for bringing that up.

    SF3 had possibly a bigger head than TMAC and was put in his place.
     
  11. BrooksBall

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    McGrady did an interview that was played on national TV DURING THE SEASON where he was talking about getting tired of playing basketball and thinking about playing baseball as soon as his contract expired. It was absurd and poorly timed.

    And JVG was our coach at the time. You can't control Me-Mac or his mouth. He lives in his own imaginary world.

    As far as your comment on SF3, the only thing stopping McGrady from getting traded his is knee or his act about his knee. And the fact is that SF3 did what he did in the first place. I guess JVG couldn't control him.

    Confronting McGrady would have accomplished nothing. Adelman probably didn't want to make a bad situation worse. He let McGrady take himself out of the equation without creating more problems. In my opinion, he went about it the right way.
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    He let TMAC write the starting lineup for him. Adelman had to check with TMAC to see if he was starting or not. JVG would have reversed that role.

    ie You practice you play, otherwise street clothes.
     
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    How much locker-room or chemistry damage did either of these incidents cause? Pretty much nothing. JVG did more with less. Adelman is doing less with more.
     
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    Adelman wanted Tracy to get intergrated into the schemes. He had trust in tracy that he could play himself into shape.Tracy from the start either wasn't honest about his physical condition or refused to put in the work needed to get into playing condition.
     

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