What's the big deal about Yao -- besides his size?

LOL ... ok.

 

Ok, it seems that writing "Don't take my words literal" means nothing here.

So, let's try again. I said: "when you first saw Yao in his rookie season, what did you expect?"

If in his 1st year everyone was saying "Yao will be better than Shaq", and Shaq was a 27,5 - 11,1 - 2,4 guy doaminating every single player around the League, I think you (me, everybody, and even Shaq himself) expected even more from Yao. Or at least the same, or, why not, something less but with more quality.

Is Yao even close to Shaq's stats/career? Or maybe Yao is more close to his prime stats? Do you still think Yao can significatively improve overall?

 

By the way, not many teams can win the championships in a row all over these years.

Think about Miami, Detroit, Boston, San Antonio...and this year might be LA
Getting championship is more like an accident these years...

So if the Rocket is lucky enough and Les willing to pay the money...
U might get Lebron in year 2011 to play with a not too old Yao...and you get the championship. Isn't that's what happens with KG???

 

You're pulling facts out of thin air. Show me where Shaq said that... show me these multitudes of sports writers or experts that said that. If you did your research, you would see that as matter a fact, many experts expected the exact opposite of Yao, from Mark cuban to Charles barkley and plenty inbetween.

 

i think the only "accident you could say" is probably the heat. if the mavs hadn't sucked so much. but i'm glad they won rather than the mavs of course.

 

A case can be made that Shaq is the best Center to ever play in the NBA, is that what you expect from Yao? To be in the argument for the greatest ever?

 

a lot of people on this board actually think yao can be that great and make excuses why he's not now.

 

Couldn't we just sign him now to a 3 year extension? He can accept his player option and then he would have a 4 year max deal which is the most I'd be willing to offer if I was Morey.

 

You only say its rediculous because you are biased. Al Jefferson is certainly not a rookie. His numbers have been better than Yao's and he does not have the luxery of a great supporting cast around him like Yao has had.

There simply is no question that Al Jeffersons cieling is much higher than Yao's. Will he reach it? Who knows. But Yao gets dominated on a much too frequent basis to be considered a super star. He IS arguably the best center in the game but certainly there are other centers including Jefferson that can argue they are better and make a damn good case.

Is Yao worth more than Jefferson? I say hell know. No Way. And you had damn sure better believe that Yao Ming would not be untouchable in a trade scenario that would bring back another top of the line center. Im not saying I would trade him but if the deal were right and it made the Rockets better....then Yao Ming would get a nice handshake on the way out of the door.

 

Yeah your right! KG never did Anything prior to last year.

- Defensive Player of the Year meant nothing
- All Star Game MVP not so much
- NBA Most Valuble Player of the Year....thats nothing.
- Leading the Timberwolves to the play offs 8 straight years was certainly nothing
- Leading the Timberwolves to the Western Conference Championship Series was nothing too right?

Gee why would anyone think to ever consider KG as good....or is it basphomhy to think he might actually be better than Yao.

Yao has accomplished so much more right?

 

Maybe you should check your facts a little bit first. Going back to the 04 - 05 season Yao Ming has only out performed Amare 3 times out of about 10 times. I did not include this year because Yao was head to head with Shaq not Amare. Even in the 05 - 06 season when Amare was out with Micro Fracture surgery and Boris Diaw was starting in place of Amare...Yao only out performed him 1 time out of 3 times. Feel free to check the game logs at Basketball reference. Yao simply has not dominated Phoenix at all in the last several years.

Anyone that has paid attention knows that Amare is on the block for finanancial reasons. Certainly Amare's performance speaks for itself and anyone that down plays his performanc to make Yao's look better is just being biased and it makes them look ignorant. Amare has had more success in the regular season and post season than Yao. Amare has been a better offensive player than Yao. And Yao is just pathetic at defense so lets not even go there.

 

if you use this one as argument point, T-mac is in my mind.

 

Finally someone gets to the point! Yao could be the worst starting center in the league and he'd still be a money-maker because of his Chinese background. . . . I can say for a fact that the whole nation of China does not follow Yao's every game though. I believe the games are nationally televised (in the morning), but life goes on in China just as it does in the USA.

 

I have absolutely no clue what you mean. If you are trying to compare TMac and pre NBA Champ KG then I just don't see the comparison.

TMac has never been an MVP of any kind.
TMac has always underachieved defensively
TMac has had zero play off success

What is your point.

 

KG has zero playoff success before going to Boston.
KG has never been score championship
you get clue?

 

Yao will always be considered to be overrated, until Houston wins a championship.

 

"Amare is a better offense player than Yao." That's said enough about you. Let's not go back to the foolish Amare-Yao stuff because it's getting too out-of-date. When people talk about DW-Yao, Amare is not mentioned nay more.
Financial reasons? How much is Amare making? How many years are left on his contract? His contract is same as Yao. Suns can definitely afford to keep him, but he is kept. He is being sold, but most teams do not seem to be crazy about him. He wants to stay in Suns so he can still pad his stats with Nash to get another big contract.

 

So in Houston's history, only the big dream is not overrated. Is that what you meant?

 

People don't talk about Amare with Yao because Amare isn't a center.
I already explained to you why Amare is being shopped.

 

People didn't see Amare wasn't a center when fans, especially houston fans, thought he should start over Yao in ASG. By the way, Amare is traded because he is not a piece for a team to build around.