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What's the big deal about Yao -- besides his size?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by boby, Feb 13, 2009.

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  1. boby

    boby Member

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    By Mike Freeman.

    He is an idiot no doubt, and I understand Les is willing to pay any price he can possibly offer but my question is: Does Yao really worth 130M contract (aside from his market value)?

    Please discuss.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/11375672

    PHOENIX -– What was the last really big game Yao Ming won?

    And I'm not talking about some regular-season snoozer against Golden State.

    It's hard to name, isn't it? Without looking, try. You can't. It's easier to envision Yao limping off the court with yet another injury but difficult to remember when he took the Rockets on his 300-pound frame and carried them deep into the postseason.

    That's because it hasn't happened. Yao has made the playoffs but after six years, all the Rockets have truly gotten out of their center is a steady viewership from China.

    Now that Brett Favre is finally gone, Yao replaces Favre as the most overrated player in sports. It's actually a good three-way battle brewing for Favre's throne between Yao, Vince Carter and Dale Earnhardt.

    I'll take Yao. The more Yao plays the more pedestrian he looks. Yao continues to pull off a deft magic trick. He makes people believe he's a devastating center when in actuality he's accomplished very little in his career.

    Why he's considered great or why he makes so many All-Star games -- this is his seventh All-Star start -- is a mystery. His actual impact on games doesn't match his reputation as an on-court beast.

    Just how good is Yao remains a pertinent question now because he'll likely become part of a gargantuan free-agent class in 2010. That group will likely include such great players as Chris Bosh, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, among others.

    Can the Rockets keep Yao?

    "Obviously, we are focused on keeping Yao in Houston long term," Rockets general manager Daryl Morey told the Houston Chronicle. "He is an elite center, and we expect him to play an integral part in this team's future success. We plan to continue building our roster around him."

    The bigger question is: Should they keep him? That's because, as the newspaper points out, in order to sign Yao, they'll likely have pay him the maximum allowed under the CBA, which would be an estimated $133 million over six years.

    Really? Yao is worth that kind of money? Really?

    No, not really.
     
    #1 boby, Feb 13, 2009
  2. peleincubus

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    this will be a fun and exciting thread

    ;)
     
    #2 peleincubus, Feb 13, 2009
  3. leonking

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    Yao for Gasol, everyone on earth will be happy
     
    #3 leonking, Feb 13, 2009
  4. DcProWLer277

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    I doubt we will give Yao a 6 yr max deal at age 30...3 yrs is more like it.
     
    #4 DcProWLer277, Feb 13, 2009
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    With McGrady out the way taking the brunt of the criticism, writers will nosw start to shoot at yao.
     
    #5 leebigez, Feb 13, 2009
  6. Cannonball

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    How many centers have averaged 20+/9+ the last 4 years?

    Just one.
     
    #6 Cannonball, Feb 13, 2009
  7. theogcasey

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    To quote a wise man regarding foolish reporters...

    "Who is that guy?"
    -- Yao Ming
     
    #7 theogcasey, Feb 13, 2009
  8. rocketsregle

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    I doubt even Yao would want to sign a contract that long. Anyway Yao can take the criticism, I think he gets motivated from it.
     
    #8 rocketsregle, Feb 13, 2009
  9. Ismail

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    Well, calling Chris Bosh a "great player" tells you all you need to know about Mike Freeman. As if Bosh has done something significant in the postseason. And Yao's impact on games is what is probably underrated because you don't see it on the stat sheet. Plus, Yao's popularity around the world has led sped up the NBA's globalization plan. And, I think I can name at least 10 people in the NBA who are more overrated than Yao.
     
    #9 Ismail, Feb 13, 2009
  10. durvasa

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    The question remains. What has Yao Ming accomplished, beyond some personal regular season stats and international marketability, to warrant a max contract at age 30?
     
    #10 durvasa, Feb 13, 2009
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    A 3 year 50 M deal would be all right.
     
    #11 saleem, Feb 13, 2009
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    And that's not enough to warrant max contract because...?

    Yao will get the max because the depth of the league at the center position goes Yao, DH, ......everyone else. End of story. There's a reason why you see scrub centers get 10+ mil contracts every offseason based on "potential". The position sucks ass.
     
    #12 meh, Feb 13, 2009
  13. RocketsHero

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    Yao would walk from 3 years 50 M, that is an insult to a player of his caliber. That is lower than his current salary.
     
    #13 RocketsHero, Feb 13, 2009
  14. boby

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    Points taken. Still feel like yesterday so many people yelled on this board to trade Yao for Oden before he even entered NBA.
     
    #14 boby, Feb 13, 2009
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    Yao brings A LOT more than highlights and game winning shots. Having Yao on the floor impacts the remaining 9 players on the court in ways that are hard describe. Intangibles. JVG once described Yao as a player that "warps" the court. Standard rules don't always apply.

    For people who don't watch Rockets games, I understand why they'd think Yao is overrated. But there aren't many players that "warp" the court and you just can't let that walk out the door.

    Lebron, KG, Kobe are 3 guys who's mere presence on the court changes the whole flow of the game. Yao obviously isn't as "glam" as those but his impact in game situations is every bit, if not more, impactful than anybody currently in the league. You'd have to watch the games, and not ESPN highlights, to understand that.

    We all wish Yao could dominate games but that isn't his style. Depsite that he doesn't dominate play, his mere presence impacts every else that happens on both defense and offense. It's the coaches job to make that work in our favor. We're still waiting for that part.
     
    #15 krosfyah, Feb 13, 2009
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    How do you figure that? It's 16mil a year which is near, if not the max.
     
    #16 DcProWLer277, Feb 13, 2009
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    That is lower than his current salary.
     
    #17 RocketsHero, Feb 13, 2009
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    He will be taking a pay cut (not a rise, mind you), if he takes 3 year 50 M in 2010.
     
    #18 RocketsHero, Feb 13, 2009
  19. DcProWLer277

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    Yao's salary:
    09yr 15 070 550
    10yr 16 378 325
    11yr 17 686 100 (player option)

    It's still pretty comparative to what he's making now, plus he is injury prone so I think 3yrs/50mil is very fair.
     
    #19 DcProWLer277, Feb 13, 2009
  20. Badrose

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    Believe it or not, I agree with Freeman. Of course Yao is one of the best C in the League, probably the best (I think Dwight is alot better) but is Yao one of the best player in the League? Did he ever show sign of signifcant improvement in his career after season 06-07? Yao is now 29 with 7 (SEVEN) years of experience: his stats are drastically decreasing compared to season 07 and 08, he is still soft, unable to defend except for his size, unable to catch a ball if not served exactly in his hands, he miss stupid/easy dunks, he's not cluth in final minutes. Yao is one of the best center in the league just because others are worse than him and that's not a good reason to pay him 130M contract. The sooner we face it, the faster we can solve alot of problems. Because yes, Yao is one of our problems if we consider him a superstar at the same level of LJ, Kobe, Wade, CP and any other superstar who can win a game alone. Yao, alone, can't win a damn thing.
     
    #20 Badrose, Feb 13, 2009
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