i would give up artest alston hayes and head for carter and dooling resign francis he can sit on the bench like head does and look for another power forward to sign
I have read that Nets want to build their team around young players. It means they only want to keep Harris and Lopez. They really don't need Carter, they are not gonna be contenders now, so dealing him would be pretty good option for the Nets. And damn, an expiring Artest's contract would be phenomenal for them, wouldn't it? So we can really try to go for Carter. He is a great player, he can pass, he can shoot and he can DUNK, I mean attack the basket. Obviously he is not what he once was, but still a very valuable star. If we can get him for Ron and maybe Head (young shooter - pretty good for the Nets) than GET IT DONE MOREY.
I tend to agree with this also. As long as we have Yao, Scola, and Battier healthy there isn't anything this team can't do. We just need a point guard and back up for Yao. Well and maybe a back up for T-mac now if he's gonna play mind games with the team.
the only thing i don't like is that vince's contract is not very friendly.. expiring AFTER the 2010/2011 season.. so we would not be players in the 2010 FA class if we re-up Yao and t-mac would be gone i guess. right? other than the contract, i would love to have vince. he's still a great scorer, passer, and decent rebounder. he'll take it to the rim and give us some excitement again. suspect defense i think though..
Lol you act like the defense is any better with him there now. When he gambles it usually results in his man blowing by him and scoring. At least when Iverson gambles he comes up with steals most of the time. If you can get Artest for Carter then i say go for it. At least we will get something in return than nothing when at the end of the season he is free to go wherever. We got Artest for nothing at least we can get something out of it.
You gotta be the dumbest guy on this list. How in the hell would the Rockets made that trade to give up our two best defenders. I understand we gotta give up Artest because of his expiring contract but shane? You must be smoking some heavy Bob Marley. Who in the hell on the Rockets would guard the Kobe, LeBron, Durant, Pierce, Wade, etc? Certainly not T-Mac a.k.a Olive Oil. Shane is our best defender but haven't been healthy because of his injury from last year. The best scenerio to trade for Vince is Ron Artest expiring contract, Carl Landry, and Luther Head Expiring Contract for Vince Carter and Sean Williams. Williams will give us length to guard the bigs in the West and he is still raw. And Carter will give us the number 2 scorer that we so desperately need because McGrady is mentally weak and need a 2 a day from Dr. Phil or Xanex for him. Carter could shoot, penetrate and even though he is not technically good on defense, he put his mind to play the best he could not like McGrady who half ass majority of the time. Alston gotta be the sorriest scorer on the face of the planet. Shooting up bricks to compete with Rodman. Overall, Vince is what we need because we need more scorer period. we cant count on Brick To My Lou or T-Wack because they are inconsitent. Shane is good for us because he could shoot the corner 3's and Carter would be good for Adelman's offense because he would feed off of Yao and Yao gonna benefit from this.
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/13586274 Is Berger hinting that Houston was the one team that had serious discussions with NJ?
i guess you gotta roll the dice on this one, i like artest, but our window i'd say is in the next 3 years, we gotta have some players, and mac not delivering is hurting the squad. artest and yao both need to step up to all star level and alston needs to stop shooting.
mac: yeah i'm paid, u? vince: he** yeah i'm paid. mac: **** it, let's just chill and let the young guys do all the work, oh and my knees been hurting
I just dont know how I feel it. Is replacing Artest for Carter an upgrade in either the short or the long run? For this season in the short run, assuming McGrady is out for a year, is a combo of VC + Yao better than Artest + Yao? Are we contenders with this group? Artest has been most valuable to us a spot up 3 point shooter capitalizing off of Yao's ability to draw people into the post. While Carter can nail a three as well, will he cut to the basket? Does he fit into the offense? Heres a snippet from Hollinger: "Carter doesn't score in the post as well as you'd expect for a player with his physical attributes, and the oft-heard criticism is that he settles for too many jump shots and doesn't attack the basket enough. " Isn't this just the equivilent of replacing McGrady? In the short run, Id call it a wash for this season. It might be better since Carter is relatively healthy, but this might cancel out with inexperience with out system. In the long run...I am assuming Morey wants to keep our current model (Yao + explosive wing) and replace McGrady with Carter. I am guessing we would then move Tmac sometime this summer or a year from now. This could extend our window of opportunity a year or two and then use McGradys expiring for some new parts (PG maybe?), depending on what happens in the summer of 2010. I fear however that the McGrady situation this year will be the Carter situation in 2 years...ie an overpaid underacheiving wing. On the bright side in the long run, we get an explosive scorer, who is basically a clone of McGrady. He is probably a more effecient scorer, with less post up and facilitating abilities. I can't comment on defense, but considering how bad McGrady is, Id assume its an upgrade on D. A healthy Carter + Yao with our current depth, might be talented enough to make a serious run at a title in 2009, but I think a WCF defeat might be our best hope with that mix. Its too hard to speculate what might happen in 2010-2011, but if Yao and Carter are still healthy and productive, that could very well be our year. Assuming of course there is no Knick team staring Lebron/Wade/Bosh. My conclusion is that it COULD work and I would pull the trigger assuming we are giving up neither Brooks nor Landry/Scola, because I would like to keep our future in tact. So, I will trust in Morey because he has always done the smart thing.
i honestly think that yao, artest is better than yao, carter. carter is older, he isn't what he was in toronto, granted he is healthier than mac, but i'm not certain nj would want a straight carter mac swap. i wouldn't want to give up artest unless artest is out of here after this year.
let me ask yall a simple question then, would you want Artest or Carter to have the ball in his hand in the final minute of the ball game? Answer: Carter! Artest basically is not a ball handler, and all he does is bull his way to the basket, and hope he gets a foul call.
