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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. esteban

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    "I don't know what you're talking about" LOL!
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    She's an Obama voter. That much we know.
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Except that Sarah Palin never said that. Tina Fey, acting as Sarah Palin, said something similar to what you posted.
     
  4. fmullegun

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    "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Right. Palin never said anything about seeing Russia from her house, Tina Fey did in a spoof of the comment you cited.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Sorry your splitting of hairs here is meaningless. When asked why she had foreign policy experience she mentioned seeing Russia from Alaska.

    The fact that it was Russia instead of her house doesn't make her answer any less absurd.
     
  7. fmullegun

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    gotta disagree there. If one is incorrect and ridiculous the other is factual the absurdity level drops. If there was no difference in the absurdity Tina would have never changed it.
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    The absurdity isn't about her being able to see Russia from her house. It is absurd because she claimed that qualified her to handle foreign policy. Seeing Russia from anywhere isn't legitimate foreign policy experience.

    That's what was absurd about her answer. Whether she could actually see part of the land that Russia owns from either point A or point B is irrelevant. It's irrelevant because it isn't foreign policy experience either way. For Palin to claim it as such, is laughable.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    What a depressing vid.
     
  10. fmullegun

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    It would be laughable if that was the entire argument. It was part of a longer argument and it was used to put into real world terms how close the countries were. This statement made the rest of her argument more valid. It was not meant as a stand alone qualification.

    Also the absuridty does come from seeing it from her house. It obviously isn't true and saying it makes anyone look like an idiot.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    The longer argument? It's ridiculous from any point of an argument. Talking about Putin flying over airspace that includes Alaska was the larger argument. That was also absurd.

    Yes saying you can see something that can't be seen is absurd, I agree. But she was absurd because of her trying make claims about qualifications that aren't real qualifications. At least that absurdity outweighs the other which isn't as relative to a VP candidate.
     
  12. fmullegun

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    They are real, just also really weak.



    And the point of it being part of an argument is valid. Arguments usually go like this

    A
    B
    C

    D exists because A B and C exist.

    Saying Saying D does not exist because B is stupid is not a valid counter argument. Saying A B and C make a really weak D is valid but does not disprove anything.


    I'm not a Palin fan anyways so I have no idea why I am arguing this. Some other dude pointed out the initial mistake. I just gave him the actual quote.
     
  13. Dairy Ashford

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    And Al Gore never said he invented the internet; but even Shrub used it in his acceptance speech at the '00 convention.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    I'll try and use an analogy.

    If I said, "I would be a good CEO for AIG because I ate Fritos with my lunch today." that would be silly of me. It would be silly if I did eat Fritos. It would be silly if I didn't eat Fritos. But whether I ate the Fritos or not wouldn't make it any less absurd reasoning.

    That's all I was trying to say. Maybe it's just going around in circles at this point.
     
  15. Shroopy2

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    All this time and now after his presidency term I've just seen the term Shrub. I promise to pay more attention this year and years to follow.


    And that video.... might explain why the California I'm in is in its own budget crisis.
     
  16. peleincubus

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    this is a quote from your link (a reply from the article)
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    Maxine Waters is a total disgrace to our system of government. Honestly, she has the mind of a 3rd grade student. That said, I'm sure she is a great leader of her 'where my free schit at' constituency.
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    WOW, Blatant racism this morning.
     
  19. fmullegun

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    Not really blatant. More subtle I would say.

    Obvious ebonics but he didn't add any racial terms of endearment at the end.

    I give it s 3.5/5 for racist remarks.
     
  20. DonnyMost

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    All I can think of is..


     

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