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"forest jihad"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Uprising, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. ChrisBosh

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    Sick mofo?? :rolleyes: ... you are one classy individual, keep it up.

    By the way I like how the guy in the video above makes it appear as though the paragraph is talking about whom you can have sex with (the paragraph was about who you can get married to...you just have to read the paragraphs previous to the one he shows to figure that out, he conveniently leaves them out). Then he somehow links this to the Koran allowing people to sex/rape married slaves....funny stuff. Seriously did you bother doing any research yourself? Instead of relying on some idiots own summary of the Koran, open the book and read for yourself. If you still find it revolting then so be it, but at least make your own conclusions. The guy above has an obvious hate filled agenda....or maybe he just didn’t understand what he was reading...one or the other....
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    How many Muslims do you know? Have you ever talked to any Muslims?
     
  3. fredred

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    There are several brands of Islam. The Mediterranean version, in countries like Lebanon and Egypt, is far more welcoming and relaxed, while the Saudi version, which is spreading like, pardon the expression, a wildfire across the Muslim world is far more hostile.

    Guess who is funding the spread of this brand? :(
     
  4. Mathloom

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    In case it hasn't been discussed already, please note the implications of oppression and poverty on humans.

    Case in point - why are there more "terrorists" in Africa than in Europe?

    Why did this difference never exist in the past?

    Even if you take a country that's well off, and you go to the "ghetto" of that country, terrorist-ish activity increases.

    There's no justification for terrorism at all, but statistically, you can't deny the link between poverty/opression and "terrorism" today. No, it's not a chicken and egg situation.

    There's also the fact that there are a billion muslims inthe world being watched very closely by every one. That could be part of it. The average Muslim is a peaceful person, just like the average Christian, just ike the average Agnostic person, etc..
     
  5. farrisdabis

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    I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing the "Do you even know any muslims?" argument. Of course the Muslims we know in the US are not going to be die-hard jihadists. The issue isn't with Muslims, it's with Islam. You can't sit here and try to tell anyone that Islam is a religion of peace. At it's very foundation it's a violent religion that subjugates women and non-believers. Most Muslims just do not embrace or choose to ignore the evil aspects of Islam because people are a bit more reasonable than that.

    Let me add by saying I'm from the Middle East. My entire family is from there and most of them still live there. I visit there almost every other Summer. I know many, many Muslims that are peace-loving people, but I can easily tell you that the majority of them, while they will probably not be proactive about it, hate anyone who is not Muslim. I've seen the indoctrinated hatred for Jews even among children.
     
  6. lalala902102001

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    I don't know if these people realize that we all live on the same planet and destroying the trees on this planet hurt us all.

    Well I suppose they already answered that question.
     
  7. Mathloom

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    LOL

    bull
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Well when you have ridiculous absolutists statements like "All I get from the Muslim World is hatred" you're going to wonder about how many Muslims those people have actually met.

    I have met a lot of Muslims here in America, in Asia and as a kid lived in Saudi Arabia for half a year. While there are problems with Islam the wild eyed statements made by many make it sound like that ALL muslims are violent and only a few steps away from terrrorism, and the rest are too cowardly to do anything about terrorists. Even your statement,

    makes it seem that way.

    Yes, there are violent Muslims but its not like the vast majority of them are out to kill non-Muslims and most of them don't hate non-Muslims. There are a billion Muslims all over the world and if Islam was really as violent as people make it out to be and most Muslims so hateful we would be seeing a much much bigger conflict than we are seeing now.

    Also this has been addressed before but it does deserve mention again.
    In the Old Testament there are several passages regarding God commanding the ancient Israelites to slaughter their enemies and non-believers. Rachel ordered her handmaid to have sex with her husband, Solomon had many wives. If we were to just pull those quotes out one could make an argument that Christianity and Judaism at their foundations are violent and subjugate women. While there are Islamic societies that treat women badly there have also been Islamic countries that have elected women to heads of state. So is that culture or is that religion?

    The problems that people cite about Islam seems to be more about culture than it does the religion since if it was religion there is no way a Benazir Bhutto would've been elected president of Pakistan. A country that calls itself an Islamic Republic and split off from India primarily over religion.

    Islam and Muslims are much bigger and more diverse than the simplistic views that get thrown around here. While it might not be a religion of peace it certainly isn't the violent religion made up of fanatical followers out to kill infidels that many seem to hold.
     
  9. rhadamanthus

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    I'm not defending islam, but this can be said of any major religion.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    The irony is palpable. If you want the Muslim world to have a different perception of us, you are the one that should be teaching them. Not other Muslims. The only lessons they are getting from you is HATE.

    Your position merely serves to ratchet up the discord between the Western and Muslim worlds. We need to break that cycle.
     
  11. TECH

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    The extremists may be a minority when compared to the whole of Islam, but that minority is still very large. Additionally, the extreme views of Islam aren't merely propaganda, they're being practiced, on a larger scale than what can merely be ignored.
    Compare the extremism in other religions if you must, but the Islamic extremists refuse to let go of the stone age. The violent acts and indoctrination of extreme Islam dwarf any comparable extremism from Christianity, for example.
    Islamic followers in the US don't belong in this category, on the whole, and I don't mean to alienate our citizens.
    My original point in this thread was that the Quran is their guide.

    Warning: Graphic content.

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/191989.php
     
  12. LScolaDominates

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    Could that be because we keep bombing them back there?
     
  13. TECH

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    Could that be because they fight amongst themselves?
     
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    Who doesn’t?
     
  15. Ari

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    We don't fight amongst ourselves (the Western world)? We have two World Wars (the greatest act of mass slaughter and display of the horrific potential of human-driven destruction in history of mankind) that speak to the contrary.
     
  16. Kwame

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    This is an absolutely ridiculous statement. I don't know if you're Muslim, but you sound like a self-hater.
     
  17. finalsbound

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    I just wanted to say that if I was not American and was seeing our country from the outside, I would find it very hard to believe that Christianity is a religion of peace, IMO. When you have so many people who equate fervid nationalism with fervid religiosity, you will have many Christians who enthusiastically call for war and the destruction of Islam. I'm not saying that Christianity at it's core is a violent religion; I believe quite the opposite. But just think of the many that have perverted the message of Christ into something hate-filled and lust after apocalyptic violence. They may be on the fringe, but they sure are a loud fringe, and seemingly a growing fringe, and have deeply affected many of my friends and family. Also, I would without a doubt say that that Christianity, along with Islam and many other religions, subjugates women and nonbelievers. Whenever I read a diatribe against Islam, I say to myself, wait, are Christians in America any better?

    As far as indoctrination, watch "Jesus Camp." That was a fun (actually terrifying) documentary to watch.
     
  18. BrownBeast99

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    You claim Muslims are pedophiles and have sex with many children when it CLEARLY states in the Quran on many occasions that adultery is forbidden?
     
  19. TECH

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    I think only Mohammed was accused of being a pedophile, but is it really the case if you claim to marry a child, and if the marriage to children was ok? Was he a hypocrite, or is he being unfairly judged based on today's common practice of marriage and age consent?
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    Have you ever tried to talk down CRAZY?
     

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