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[video] Jordan vs Maxwell

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. speedball

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    i saved an extra pair for about 10 years. they were only like 5 bucks at payless. i don't know what finally happened to them. wish i still had them.
     
  2. psk

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    if realrockyboy is trying to say that jordan was rusty when playing only "half of the season" then that's bull. look at his playoff stats for that '94-'95 "half" season, it's comparable to the rest of his career playoff runs.
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Clutchfans isn't for everybody.
    I personally can't watch Mavs, Spurs and Laker games. Not everyone feels the way I do about The Rockets. I watch every game and I make it a ritual. I watch when they are up 15 or down 15. I Just Love what the team is about. We won a championship and we didn't get on the Sports illustrated cover? Thats the stuff that makes me a Rockets fan. When the media discounts our B2B and jerks post that we won because Jordan took off; It just makes me smile. :) This is why I love this team. We are the team that The NBA doesn't want to win. We are the redheaded stepchild of the league. We win 22 and it's a fluke. We start losing some games and we are a failure. This ain't nothing new to us. Go Rockets


    Plain and simple.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    At least back in the day all of the Houston Rockets fans were united in this. the WHOLE CITY started canceling Sports Illustrated. Then they had to send some idiot to the Astrodome to apologize to us. WE BOOED HIM. Now we have people who claim to be Rockets fans, yet find it offensive that I post a random 5 minute clip where the Bulls have problems scoring in the paint and one of guards dares to talk smack to #23.

    We knew the media hated us, but people claiming to be 'clutchfans' hating on us? they don't even know what the 'clutch' part means.

    If you root for that team that says "ROCKETS" that means you respect everything about it..ESPECIALLY THEIR CHAMPIONSHIPS

    What about Bird's back? What if Bird didn't get those back injuries? How many more titles for the Celtics? What about Len Bias? he was the #1 pick.
    He DIED. what if he didn't die?

    The Lakers, Celtics, Pistons fans NEVER question their championships. Was Jordan tired when Detroit and Boston kept beating him in the playoffs?

    Hey how did that Dream fellow get in the finals in his SECOND year?

    What REAL ROCKETS fans know is the ultimate WHAT IF QUESTION has NOTHING to do with JORDAN.

    What if Sampson had properly recovered from his injury in Boston and what if Lolyd and Wiggins didn't get banned for drugs.

    We're talking DYNASTY.
     
  5. realrockyboy

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    night :p

    <img src="http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:h3XbMnhH04_2jM:http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/ist2_1795210_cry_baby.jpg">
     
  6. AntiSonic

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    Just go away. You got completely exposed as a Jordan dittohead for busting out the half season excuse on the wrong freaking year.
     
  7. Lynus302

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    Ownage.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    that dude got rookified!

    99ers unite
    in the night
    so we can fight
    not for wrong but for right
    to shine a light
    that the rockets history
    is bright
    on this clutchfans site
     
  9. Jerry36

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    I am a Die heart rockets fan, but those bulls championship teams were better. They're 6-0 in the finals because they were dominant. Tinman is going by what happen early in the regular season when the games are not that competitive. It's a different story in the playoffs. Throw out the 95 season, because the comparison is against the bulls championship teams.
    I read a post about somebody saying "We can beat the Spurs because we already beat them by 20." I tell that person to go back and check the Schedule from past years and see how many victories do we have in March.
    Another person going by what happen early in the season. This season is going to be interesting to see how the rockets fare against the Spurs in March because this is a team that can win it all.
     
  10. cson

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    Jordan says Max was the toughest person he ever guarded.

    WORT!
     
  11. apxn82

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    OTIS THORPE! holly motha...I think I just pee in my pants. I wish he playing next to Yao right now. He would average 20 rebounds a game.
     
  12. langal

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    The Bulls were better. They won 6 championships in 8 years and had one of the most dominant runs in NBA history. They shattered regular season records.

    I don't think that's the point though. The point is this:

    1. The Rockets matched up extremely well against the Bulls during that time and got the better of them in the regular season.

    2. The Rockets would have made the Finals those 2 years even if Jordan was playing. His presence does not affect them obviously up until the Finals.

    3. The Rockets swept an Orlando Magic team that beat the Bulls that HAD Jordan on the team. Maybe not a 100 percent Jordan, but I think 90 percent at least (he put up 31,6,5 in the playoffs).

    4. The Rockets would have had a great chance against the Bulls in the Finals even with Jordan

    5. The Rockets 2 rings are legitimate and well deserved. They don't get the respect they deserve because of crap like a white SUV.
     
  13. Gwalchmai

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    Ok, have to reply to that. If your arguement is that over all Jordan's Bulls were better than the Hakeem's Rockets when you take their performance in toto, okay. But, if you mean that the Rocket's championship teams were inferior to the best championship Bulls teams, then I think you are wrong. I think there is more data supporting the position that the Hakeem championship Rockets would have beaten the Jordan championship Bulls, then supports the contrary.
     
  14. Gwalchmai

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    What if Seattle hadn't been allowed to play zone.
     
  15. AntiSonic

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    There are really two different Bulls championship teams: the original threepeat and the 70 win monster squad. The latter does not exist without Jordan's sabbatical and it's EXTREMELY unlikely that the original team would have been able to fourpeat (let alone rattle off 8 in a row as some claim!) even if Horace Grant had stayed.

    I think it breaks down like this

    96-98 Bulls > 94-95 Rockets > 91-93 Bulls

    I'm willing to give credit to the later team (which is more than the typical Jordan jocker will do for us) seeing as they were 2-0 against us in '96.
     
  16. tinman

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    sorry to break it you pal, but the original 3 championships had an incredible weakness that the Rocket exploited.

    you really think Stacey King, Scott Williams, Grant, could handle Horry, Dream, and Thorpe?

    Keep in mind the clip is the team WITHOUT CASSELL/ELIE coming off the bench.

    I know some people hate the clip that posted cause they have never seen it before and refused to believe that Michael Jordan could just drive to the hoop with ease on us.

    Not the case. you know it too.

    You are not a die hard Rockets fan cause no way you act like France and give up to the Germans without a fight.

    The Orlando Magic with Shaq exposed what was wrong with that first Bulls team with their front line. The Rockets did that too with a superior center.

    Anyways, if you are a real Rockets fan, you always root for the team that says Rockets and you know not because of one game, but because of many games played that the Rockets had the Bulls number.

    Did I ever say we won more championships? no. Video show Mike couldn't just attack the Rockets like he did the Knicks or any other team.

    And if you say he'd easily do that to Dream, then you aren't a DIE HARD fan at all.
     
  17. tinman

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    You take Dennis Rodman off the late Bulls team, Bulls don't win 70 or a championship.

    What these Jordan Jockers forget is that this was the MAIN REASON why they got past Orlando. Not because Jordan played a full season. They picked up a guy who could grab 17-18 boards a game for nothing.

    Think about that, what if Yao had a PF who AVERAGED 18 boards a game?

    The video shows that Scott Williams couldn't even handle a bump by Otis Thorpe, those first 3 title teams would have been beaten down by the Dream. No Problem.
     
  18. tinman

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    langal

    did you watch the video?

    you do notice that dennis rodman and kukoc weren't there right?

    you know why?

    those were TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TEAMS

    and langal,

    tell me why did they go out and get Dennis Rodman? cause Stacey King/ Scott Williams were great players from the first title runs?

    I'm going to start a Dennis Rodman appreciation thread cause some of you here give too much credit to Jordan.

    Dennis Rodman won multiple rings with two different teams. Pippen couldn't do that.
     
  19. The_Yoyo

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    exactly the way phil jackson's offense worked in chicago with their premiere players being at the 2/3 positions was that they need a banger at the PF spot, a guy who could get rebounds, defend like crazy. Horace grant was that guy before. why do you think the bulls after jordan left still did pretty well? horace grant had an all-star year that year and then he leaves for orlando. the bulls get jordan back and then they get beat in 6 games to the magic. whereas the bulls the year before push the knicks to 7 games.

    so the bulls go out and are handed one of the greatest defensive PF in history and boom they go 72-10. no surprise there.

    had the bulls kept the same squad in 94-95 they definitely dont win 72 and they would have a much much harder time getting to the finals let alone win another 3 in a row.
     
  20. tinman

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    YoYo,
    that was a great and ACCURATE BREAKDOWN of the situation.
    Now you know why I hate San Antonio so much. Oh the Spurs wouldn't have the best record in 95 and David Robinson would get that MVP without Rodman either.

    For the video I posted. it is what it is.

    real rocket fans would enjoy the defense of that old team, the swagger of max, and the excitement of the summit

    jordan jockers will get angry seeing their hero miss shots and getting cursed out by vernon maxwell

    new fans will actually see how it was back in the 90s and how two great teams played each other and their different styles.

    new fans would ask themselves, who are these scrubs Stacey King and Scott Williams, why on earth are they guarding Dream? I can't believe someone would start beef with Jordan, aren't they afraid he would score 50 points on them?
     

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